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  • HelenB

    Contd I don't long for my mom back. It means I cannot continue her rollercoaster ride, lies, noncompliance, or ever have the mom even a well known psychologist who knew, try as I might, I couldn't make her into the image I long was ingrained to love and put first. I would do grief counseling & would be grateful for a workbook ABT how to not let a huge part of me feel buried with her. It was her choice, not mine. In fact, I'm trying to survive a very serious medical condition. I'm nothing like my mom who I loved so much only to be treated like utter junk. I forgive her even though I have evidence she was well aware how she treated me. Grief therapy doesn't apply to suicide, esp of someone who had a personality disorder. It's abundantly frustrating & burdensome to try to perpetuate her false image. Still, it's also utterly painful to let go of the image and lies a dysfunctional mom who I was mom to ingrained in me to believe, her only daughter. She would cling to me and then be abusive, reckless, jealous, impulsive, and she lacked empathy and remorse. I spent most my adult life away (that saved me & I thought she was just too young to be a mom & that we grew up together). Ppl envied us. They saw me as the perfect daughter & i did everything under the sun to try to make her a real mom by being the best daughter I never made time to have, being too busy fulfilling my role as her daughter. She blamed me for everything. She didn't murder herself cuz she hated me (although the last several years and during childhood she was cruel and cold & did things I don't want to rehash for a year with a grief therapist looking for the few happy memories), but she did it cuz she didn't love herself. She wasn't capable of having normal relationships. I left home young and got my own identity & financial independence-I thought. I didn't ever face the fact that she wouldnt let me cut the cord. She threw tantrums fearing abandonment. I was ok, until I went back for medical care and realized I didn't know her and she didn't know me, despite her public persona & all I wished. Even my dad who met her very young and they were married until the end, asked me I thought she could kill him. I was shocked. He said he didn't know who the real (my mother's name) ever really was. Things got particularly bad her last several years due to rx drug addiction & some events in her life that made her feel afraid she was losing her sand castle. I feel sorry for her. She has sons who she" paid to love her" and they loved her bank account only & were extremely abusive. They didn't try to be the perfect children. My mom made her bed. She chased after their love like chasing after bad boyfriends and yet, nothing I did was enough. She encouraged them to be abusers to her, me and everyone they ever have known. She wanted family all with her but she drove wedges between us. She was a light switch. I was the loyal one. Now I realize I'm not as independent as I thought. I can't get used to the fact I will never have the mom I thought I finally won. I can't get used to the finality. Grief therapy doesn't work the same in this kind of situation. Even if my mom had done it with no expectation or history of mental illness or even if she had a hx of mental illness but was not hurtful to me yet ingraining enmeshment/engulfment, I'd still be dealing with whole set of additional issues. So, any suggestions how to get my sense of self back? I feel like I was pushed off a rollercoaster just before it crashed & im full of debris and can't find my way out of the carnival park. I used to be confident. When I got sick, I think she was happy & I found all her endless bragging and narcissistic supply I fed was actually severe jealousy. She wouldn't let me ever mention the life I made and I thought made her proud & happy. She even competed with my medical condition & has some mystery illness that was worse no one could diagnose. I still want my mom to be a mom. What help is there? Sry 4 typos
  • Holiday Leinani Waits (Hashimoto

    How do you forgive yourself when the person you need to hear forgiveness from can't give it you? How do you move on? My mother passed away 8 yrs ago (June 24th), guilt has been eating at me and seems to be getting worse with each year.

  • Denise

    How can I go on without my son?
  • Britt

    It will be three years I lost my son, and I feel like things are getting worse. My son's death opened Pandora's box my life has never been the same. I feel alone actually I have been grieving alone. Friends and family members seem to have disappeared no one understands what I am going through. I have never ask for help from anyone, and now when I need some emotional support everyone bails. I feel like my prayers for help haven't been heard. For the first time in my life I feel lost.its hard because most of my loved ones have died, and the hardest one to deal with is the loss of my son. I'm totally devastated!
  • Christine Clinton

    On August 25th it will be three months since I lost my father. He had a brain bleed on May 17th, and on May 25th, he died. Every single day without him just doesn't seem fair. My heart is having a very hard time coming to terms and coping with the fact that my dad is gone, while my head knows that he is happy, at peace, and no longer in pain or suffering. Is there ever going to come a time where I don't feel sad all the time, or be able to look at his pictures and not feel the searing heartache? Will I ever not miss him or feel the aching emptiness? Please help. 

  • Kelly

    My husband died suddenly on June 4, the day before my 48 birthday. He died in his sleep, in our bed. Heartbroken and crushed. I feel so very alone and have few people to talk to that understand.
  • Elynn m

    Kelly,   I am so sorry for your loss.   No one can feel what you feel right now.   Friends don't understand (or can't imagine)losing a loved one so quickly and unexpectedly.  I feel lonely too.   I found that friends don't call as often, after the death of my husband.   That can get lonely.   I'm sure it is not intentional.   Many people are afraid, or don't want to upset me, by talking about joe.   I'm sure it is uncomfortable for them.  I've found that if I reach out to them, they are very receptive.   

     Thank you for being so brave and sharing your feeling with us.

                     God Bless.

        

  • Lisa Maria DeMatto- Wysong

    Kelly, I am so sorry for your loss, I don't know exactly how you feel, I understand the emotional roller coaster that you are on. Stay brave.

  • Lisa Maria DeMatto- Wysong

    Britt, Denise and the others that have lost children May God Bless You if you believe. Stay Strong! l recently lost my dad, (my superman) and a close friend. It has been 9 months, yet it feels like yesterday.

  • Lisa Maria DeMatto- Wysong

    Hi Amy Ginn,

    Diana Y does counseling, but it isn't free. She is good. Below is the link so you can message her. It is also good counseling to message other members.

    http://www.onlinegriefsupport.com/profiles/blogs/grief-counseling-s...

  • dream moon JO B

    yea

    i get askt u ok i lie isa y im ok

    r u happy u dads ded im lk nooooooooooooooooooooo 

    ru hapy pepel u mist hav gon nooooooooooooooooooooooo

    why dnt u get over it????????????? no i cnt get over it thng we get told evry day

    its easty 2 get ovr loss nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo its nevr easy coz lif sucs wen thy hav gon

    lif bledin sucs 

    or hears 1 i dnt no wot loss is im lik hellllllllllllllllllllo hav had loss non sisne 2012 its1616 still havi losss 

    sorry if im rantin on 2 mush

  • HelenB

    Note: please please reply. I don't know how to help myself but want to.

    Diana & others-I wrote two long posts previously.. I'm still searching. How does one adjust to the suicide of an abusive, cruel parent? I was ingrained to love and be loyal to my mom. Im not relieved or glad she is gone, but feel like she took part of me. I loved the image I wanted her to be.

    I'm an adult in the psych field, ironically. Grief counseling for a year made me feel worse. Diana & others, I feel I'd benefit from REBT, because I think my grief (while maybe traumatic/complicated/disenfranchised/unresolved) Is more an issue of ongoing Stockholm syndrome/trauma bonding W/a dead person-utterly irrational! (I don't meet criteria for any dsm dx)

    I was ingrained to love my mom & did. I left home & made my own life, creating my own identity, and was resilient & completely self sufficient (despite being from a well off, educated family, I had to buy my own clothes at age 10 & I was my mom's object in public, nuisance at home, & her mom, but if I cried or needed a mom, I was punished severely). I thought I won my parents over as we grew up together.

    Then, I was back in my parents' home to be near better medical care for a very serious medical condition (ending up in captivity & unable to escape back to my own home). I was isolated (and could get out) & subjected to shocking & constant fear, threats, lies, defamation to keep others away, malnutrition & dehydration even though I had my groceries delivered, neglect, emotional/physical/verbal/abuse by her, my sibling brothers (who hated my mother but manipulated her) & my once harmless dad with dementia who became violent as they agitated him (I quietly hid as much as I could). The family I was taught was most important & would always be the ppl who really loved me, didn't. They threw me scraps to confuse me.

    I was the last one my mom had left (after my escape, I went back for her final overdose) at her death in the ICU. She woke up to confuse me one last time, scared & trying to make amends. I forgave her & reassured her I loved her, and we sobbed together. It was so hopelessly heartbreaking... I cry telling you this. She kept her promise and left me what she always wanted me to have. I cannot take off her wedding rings, but I don't want to think of her legacy.

    I can't find literature on ongoing trauma bonds/Stockholm syndrome with a dead person, much less a BPD/NPD/sadistic parent (really it was bad). How do I break a trauma bond with a dead person? I grieve for the mom she pretended to be but she really couldn't be.

    Please give me some direction. PLEASE PLEASE RESPOND. My own medical prognosis is poor. I want to find peace in the time left. Please help me. I'm begging you. I don't know if this is within your expertise, but traditional grief therapy (and the literature, albeit, it isn't my professional area of expertise) does not apply. Please help me help myself. Thank you. Sorry for any typos.
  • dream moon JO B

    hi helenb my moms got alzmers lst few mth she bean abusv argesv 2wards me but its bean bad lst 2 or 3 wks but ths wks bean so ndad bad u cud say i feal a nervs wec u cud say 

    she wz lovin yrs go but ths yr got bad coz of lazmers thng iv bean cald got me so kow u cud say im cryn lk a kid wen she goz ogg on 1 

    evn sad evn grnd me lk kid im 41 or pusnh me lk a kid i no its ilnes 

    but ths alzmers u cud say trnd her frm lovin persn 2 a monstr u cud say pls tell me im nit bean basty nasty im not juts ths ilnes feals lk a monsr or satens ilnes 

    all i no i wana my ol mom bk i do but ths 1 gon relplasd by momsr ocz of ilnes 

    soorrry if i sond lk a bad persn or iv carz upst 2 a persnon hear

  • dream moon JO B

    yep diana i no helll thng im livin in it coz of moms alzmes begin 2 rekize my metl helths is sufrin i am coz im a nervs rec i am it lst on hear i can hav sum vent i can i just wory in case i upst pepel on hear i do its why i say sorry i do

  • Lisa Maria DeMatto- Wysong

    HELEN B

    I replied to your posting on your profile page

    Please check the page

  • mhi gp

    hello. i have just joined.
    Diana, I am so sorry for your loss.

    When you are ready, I would like support please, but no pressure timewise. Many hugs to you

  • Diana, Grief Recovery Coach

    Hi everyone, Grief can never be taken lightly.  It's definitely a roller coaster ride.  Even when you think you are on the other side of it, you are not or maybe some are - I believe it's a never ending journey.  Grief is a journey that we all walk through here.  Definitely a journey with its ever twisting and turning "adventures" -  it is an adventure of sorts.  We can create our own journey.  So let's do just that.  We are writing our own stories and we can choose the path we wish to take.  Any way, my hope is we all support each other because that is how we survive this journey.  Love and hugs to all - Diana

  • Diana, Grief Recovery Coach

    Hello, if you are interested in grief counseling, please contact me.  

    We can start with the following:

    • How are you feeling right now?
    • What are some things that trouble you most?
    • Tell me about your eating patterns.
    • Are you sleeping?

    I want to be of service to all of you.  Thank you.  

  • Diana, Grief Recovery Coach

    In regards to fees:

    I am a certified grief counselor, accredited with The American Academy of Grief Counseling.  You can check them out here:  http://aihcp.net/american-academy-of-grief-counseling

    We will be in a safe and private online environment. Anything you share is confidential.

    It's affordable. 

    Pay a low monthly flat fee of 30 dollars for unlimited sessions with me, your counselor – Diana Young.

    It's convenient.

    Do it at your own time and at your own pace. Communicate with me as often as you want and whenever you feel it's needed. I live in Eastern Standard time.  I'm looking forward to working with anyone that needs assistance.  Grief is a journey and I will be there to assist you along your path.  Peace and love to all.  - Diana

  • Eddie budnick

    I still feel very crummy today and just can not find a way to stop crying and I sure do know the holidays going to be rough for me this year without my mother around

  • Diana, Grief Recovery Coach

    Research shows there is a high need for grief counselors to address food issues.  Besides being a Certified Grief Counselor, I am also a Registered and Licensed Dietitian/Nutritionist.  Please indicate if you eating habits have changed.  I can offer suggestions that can and will be helpful.  

    Hugs,

    Diana

  • Lisa Maria DeMatto- Wysong

    Hi Diana

    Eating has been an issue I have been struggling with. I have no appetite and when I do I crave sugar. Sleeping is also a struggle. Any suggestions you may have will be welcome with open arms.

    LISA

  • dream moon JO B

    still sobin on off over my cat had so mush lisne 2012 sine my dad died but my cat giv me so mush luv ovr 16 yrs of frnd shp 

    sorry if i sond mad 

    i no sum pepe say its only a cat why get so uspett?????? coz she giv me so mush luv

    sorrry if im goin on 2 mush

  • Linda Engberg

    Hi Jo,

    Our pets are just like one of the family. I don't now what I'll do if my sweet dog Babie J passed on. She has brought me so much love and comfort since losing my Husband.

    So sorry for you Loss.

    Linda

  • dream moon JO B

    thnx linda 

    spoil yore dog giv her loeds of luv i cunt evn go in vets i cunt coz i no iw ud of bean no gud 2 my cat or my slf plsd my brhtr had 2 tak ehr her 2 get put 2 sleeep i no tears r cumin goin thy r 

  • Diana, Grief Recovery Coach

    Grief:  Nobody on this earth would blame you if you became depressed and didn't want to carry on, but sometimes the mind can work powerful miracles. Even in the worst times there is hope and you should never give in to the dark storms that are approaching.

  • Diana, Grief Recovery Coach

     If you've lost your appetite, try simple comfort foods, such as soups, mashed potatoes with chicken or meatloaf, fruit and yogurt smoothies, puddings, pasta, or foods from your childhood or cultural background. Eating small portions frequently may help, as well. Take a multivitamin to cover any nutrients your diet isn't currently supplying.  

  • dream moon JO B

    bean 2 sea my cat lucys grav 2 day i put sum flowrs on varse on her grav id di

    if u loze a pet if thy hav grv grav it a grt way 2 put flowrs on it for thm i feal sad shes gon but i no i can go sea her grav wen i wnt i can 

  • dream moon JO B

    hears a pic of flowrs i put on lucys grav 

    my brth bured her in his gardn so i can go sea her wen i wnt 2

  • Linda Engberg

    Jo,

    The flowers are just beautiful.

    Take Care, Linda

  • dream moon JO B

    thnx linda 

  • dream moon JO B

  • Linda Engberg

    Jo,

    What a beautiful post.

    Linda

  • dream moon JO B

    thnx 

    i wz tryin 2 fnd sothng o  lin 2 brng e me comft thd ths 1 is for al of us its ad had pet loss not just me  

  • mhi gp

    dear jo b,

    i have also lost cats.

    they gave me so much love, one over 16 years and one over nearly 21. their loss is very, very hard. it's healthy to grieve over a loss like that, you do not sound mad.

    lots of hugs to you.

    there are some books specifically on grieving our animal companions, they can be very helpful

  • dream moon JO B

    thnx mh

    i no pet loss can be bads as a humn loss u cud say iv gt 2 tiny kitns 2 kpp me bizy i ahv hav it 2 loeds of sill ltl skrps thy r thn i say i wsht my cat lucy it pass cud of met u 2 it wz ovr 16 of lovin frnshp we had 

  • Michael

    Diana
    In reading many of the posts in Lost My Spouse and others, there is a familiar theme: i'll never get over him/her; i want to die; life is no longer worth living etc. i also feel these feelings. My question is, are these people, including myself, experiencing so-called "complicated grief?" And if so, what to do about it?
  • Linda Engberg

    Michael,

    I have complicated grief and see a therapist every two weeks and take meds. It does help a little because I can pour my heart out to her and am not judged. 

  • Susan Johnson

    I miss my mom it has been 11 months since I lost her to cancer. It was difficult to go on through the holidays. I love her and miss her dearly. I hope we can all make it and continue on without her.

  • dream moon JO B

    yep miss evry 1 evn pets we loss wil be a big miss 2  no 1 gets it till it hapnes 2 thm 

    its lk a big gap stolin way off us its lk evry 1 we luv bean stolin off us its lk thy stoll or herts thn brok ourr herts thy did 

  • Diana, Grief Recovery Coach

    Michael,

    Linda is correct in her statement.  Most here are experiencing complicated grief.  It helps, like Linda said, to pour our hearts out here.  If suicide is ever a thought I would consider seeing someone face to face immediately and calling the suicide hotline posted on the main page.  

  • Linda Engberg

    Hi Diana,

    Thanks, for your comment, I don't know what I would have done without this wonderful web-site and the people on it.

    Linda

  • dream moon JO B

    sorrry if i carz upset 2 any 1 on hear but i luv washin ths man its sad he had 2 pass colin fryhttp://vimeo.com/39734211

  • dream moon JO B

  • dream moon JO B

    luv ths osng dont u fogt abot me yea why shid i fogt abot pele its died wen my dad died i wz told fogrt abot foget he evrr exsit hs only yore dad or els its easy why on erth shid i foget abot my dad man i luvd if i evr get a man lk my dad i  be lplsd evn if his hrd up deprt 2 go wit me 

    why shud i foget a bt pe;le its died thy imprt pele ty lvd thy died ty sufed we hear sfiin coz of loss  or i let ithapen wish i new how i let it hoapen  i do

    i just wish we all hear on a gahn lk a party noy a loss/losses or a brake or holday ot loses lk evry 2 ean happy agan not way we r now no 1 gets a loss til it hapend 2 thm

  • Diana, Grief Recovery Coach

    The Mayo Clinic defines complicated grief as follows:

    During the first few months after a loss, many signs and symptoms of normal grief are the same as those of complicated grief. However, while normal grief symptoms gradually start to fade over time, those of complicated grief linger or get worse. Complicated grief is like being in an ongoing, heightened state of mourning that keeps you from healing.

    Signs and symptoms of complicated grief may include:

    • Intense sorrow and pain at the thought of your loved one
    • Focus on little else but your loved one's death
    • Extreme focus on reminders of the loved one or excessive avoidance of reminders
    • Intense and persistent longing or pining for the deceased
    • Problems accepting the death
    • Numbness or detachment
    • Bitterness about your loss
    • Feeling that life holds no meaning or purpose
    • Irritability or agitation
    • Lack of trust in others
    • Inability to enjoy life or think back on positive experiences with your loved one

    If you are experiencing complicated grief, please contact me.  

  • dream moon JO B

    iv loss wait agan i no ths tim its ovr a pet losss i no sum pelepl dnt unstdn a a cat/dog loss ulles thy hav pet dnt matr ifs nota cat/dog cud be a spyder or bugoe or so it ca n be it still kills us lk hell it can ]i no i haf lucy fr 16 yrs bt she gt be thru sum bad tims aftr my dad died she did i get ltd 2 grow up stp bean lk a kid uv 2 new cats nws well kittns u shud say 

    bt lucy gt me thru sum sad momts in y if lif evn my mst darks secrts i tld her yes she wz a cat bt or huen fealinthn humn beans evr had she did she dnt tell me ay i shud feal or swer it me or tel world 2  im not goin say on hear i nt wnt no kor gilt on my ciseses i dnt 

    sory cnt typ prop agan arhrts wnt let me typ sorry

  • Jules

    My husband passed away suddenly at the age of 44 on April 19th of this year. He went to work and never came home. Doctors said it was sudden cardiac death! We were together for 18 years. Now I'm left to continue to raise our 3 children alone! I'm lost, broken, confused. I can't believe he is gone. I made it to the hospital right before they declared him so I was by his side when he left and I am glad I was there for him but his death has left such a hole in my heart that all I want is to be with him. He is all I've known since I'm 18 years old and all I want! Every day is a struggle to get up and the only reason I do is because of the kids otherwise I wouldn't! All I want is him and to be with him!!
  • BLUEBELL

    This is beyond overwhelming. I am so sorry for your loss and for the hardships it has brought on. Do you have family to give emotional support? Is there someone who can help with the children for awhile?

    My heart goes out to you Jules! 

    Bluebell

  • Elynn m

    Jules,

       I am so sorry for your loss.   Your husband was very young.   My husband was older, but I know what you mean about sudden death.   Family is important at this time.   I hope you have someone to help with the children.   It's important to have others there for us.   I'm sure you will find this site helpful.   It has been a blessing to me.