Hello Lorie and Bobbi, I am still reluctant to look at some of my son's things too and I would NEVER part with them. I still had so many plans for my son and he is 21yrs old. I get angry that I will never be able to congratulate him on achieving goals he set for himself, I cant dance with him at his wedding and can't see him in action as a father, I won't be able to tell his children any funny or embarrassing stories about him. I won't be able to see him become the man that I always hoped that he would be. He was only a baby to me and will always be my baby. He had a life and he was robbed of it. No matter how old your child is, you NEVER want to have to bury them, even if you lose them in our womb. I want my son back, I want my life back! Thanks.
Hello everyone. My daughter, Jessica was run down a year ago today. It hurts just as much if not more today than it did then. The man that did this to her was in court yesterday and was granted another continuance. He still has not spent any time in jail. I'm hurting and angry. If one more person tells me that I'm a strong woman and that i need to just get over it and move on or oh well, that's life, i'm going to scream!
Joan, I hear ya! I'm sick to death of people telling me how strong I am, and how much they admire me for it. Bullshit!! I'm not strong, I'm broken beyond repair! I've just learned how to put on a good act so that I don't make THEM uncomfortable with my grief and pain!
I hate to hear of your injustice as well. This world has just gotten too messed up! The criminals have ALL the rights and the victims have none! SHEESH. I was told by my lawyers that I may not have a case against ANY of Raxanne's doctors because nobody can prove exactly WHAT was wrong with her! The way I see it, that was the very reason WHY they are at fault because they gave up trying to figure it out and said that she must be faking things or that it was all in her head. Don't know about you but I've never once heard of a psychosomatic illness KILLING somebody!
Sorry, didn't mean to go off on a rant. Thinking of you and praying for you Joan. I know this must be an especially hard day. {{Hugs}}
Dear Joan and everyone, go ahead and scream if you want to!!!!!!!! None of us signed up for this crap! The people/agency responsible for robbing me and my son of his life, have not been brought to justice yet either. My son's voice has been silenced but mine's has not!
Still depending on my mood and who the person is, when asked that question...."how are you?".......I answer by saying things could be a lot better or I'm hurting, I'm broken, I'm fu@ked up!!!(excuse the language), sometimes I say, " how do you think I feel, can you get me my son back?"!!!!! I have never really cared much about making others feel uncomfortable because it is truly not intended that way and it bothers me that some people take it personal. I am not going to lie about how I feel, before my son passed away, I probably would have but not now, no way. Some of us grieve and mourn the same way and many of us grieve different. No one can pass judgement, especially someone that has not walked in our shoes.
My new "Normal" Normal is having tears waiting behind every smile when you realizesomeone important is missing from all the important events in your family's life. Normal is feeling like you can't sit another minute without getting up and screaming because you just don't like to sit through anything. Normal is not sleeping very well because a thousand what if's & why didn't I's go through your head constantly. Normal is reliving that day continuously through your eyes and mind, holding your head to make it go away. Normal is having the TV on the minute I walk into the house to have noise, because the silence is deafening. Normal is every happy event in my life always being backed up with sadness lurking close behind, because of the hole in my heart. Normal is telling the story of your child's death as if it were an everyday, commonplace activity, and then seeing the horror in someone's eyes at how awful it sounds. And yet realizing it has become a part of my "normal". Normal is having some people afraid to mention my baby. Normal is making sure that others remember her. Normal is weeks, months, and years after the initial shock, the grieving gets worse sometimes, not better. Normal is not listening to people compare anything in their life to this loss, unless they too have lost a child. NOTHING. Even if your child is in the remotest part of the earth away from you - it doesn't compare. Losing a parent is horrible, but having to bury your own child is unnatural. Normal is taking pills, and trying not to cry all day, because I know my mental health depends on it. Normal is realizing I do cry everyday. Normal is disliking jokes about death or funerals, bodies being referred to as cadavers, when you know they were once someone's loved one. Normal is being impatient with everything and everyone, but someone stricken with grief over the loss of your child. Normal is sitting at the computer crying, sharing how you feel with chat buddies who have also lost a child. Normal is feeling a common bond with friends on the computer in England, Australia, Canada, the Netherlands and all over the USA, but yet never having met any of them face to face. Normal is a new friendship with another grieving mother, talking and crying together over our children and our new lives. Normal is not listening to people make excuses for God. "God may have done this because..." I love God, I know that my baby is in heaven,but hearing people trying to think up excuses as to why babies were taken from this earth is not appreciated and makes absolutely no sense to this grieving mother. Normal is being too tired to care if you paid the bills, cleaned the house, did laundry or if there is any food. Normal is wondering this time whether you are going to say you have a child, because you will never see this person again and it is not worth explaining that my baby is in heaven. And yet when you say you have no children to avoid that problem, you feel horrible as if you have betrayed your baby. Normal is avoiding McDonald's and Burger King playgrounds because of small, happy children that break your heart when you see them. Normal is asking God why he took your child's life instead of yours and asking if there even is a God. Normal is knowing I will never get over this loss, in a day or a million years. And last of all, Normal is hiding all the things that have become "normal" for you to feel, so that everyone around you will think thatyou are "normal".
~Written by someone that knows exactly what I'm going through, this woman loss her baby girl, it does not matter how old your child is, they will always be your baby.
Thank you, Karen, for sharing. Sad to say it is right on target...only another mother could explain the "new normal" we all share. ((((HUGS)))) to you and all the other moms grieving the loss of their "baby".
Karen, thanks for sharing that writing. Reading it and seeing how true it all is was hard, but I have to face that reality even though I do everything I can to avoid it. Always trying to make my thoughts go to something else is so tiring, but even after a year I seem to constantly be thinking of my son. As soon as my eyes open in the morning and when I'm trying to get to sleep at night, he is with me. Sometimes I feel like I am being so selfish because I pray and cry out to forget, but then I'm afraid I will forget. I already struggle with trying to remember what his voice sounded like. I want to hear him talk to me again and then the guilt comes again because I remember so many times when he would be talking to me and I wanted him to stop. Those were the times when he was talking what I call 'nonsense'. Oh what I would give to hear 'nonsense' again. Wednesdays are particularly hard for me still. I always seem to notice the time around 9:30 a.m. when the police came to the house. I didn't need to be told, I knew he was gone. I thank you all for your posts. They help me keep going many days. I'm sorry I don't connect often, but I want to lift up and I have nothing to give you to help lift you up, so I usually remain quiet. Be blessed.
I have been reading this little verse this week. It does seem to help me.
A Fallen Limb A limb has fallen from the family tree I keep hearing a voice that says,"Grieve Not for Me." Remember the best times,the laughter, the songs, the good life I lived while I was strong. My mind is at ease, I am at rest.
So today was the first day back to school here. It was so hard hearing it all over the news and the other moms here at work talking about the hassels getting the kids up and on the bus, the excitment for the seniors. Roxanne would have been a senior this year. She was sooooo excited about it and looking forward to college visits and plans. Now all I have is yet another big gaping hole and a reminder that she is not where she is supposed to be. Hugs to everybody {{ }} Lisa
Greetings Ammy, I know all about stuggling to put your thoughts on something else. Trust me, don't worry, you will never forget your baby, your child. My heart just ached when I read that poem from the mother that lost her baby girl. It ached so much because I could feel every word. I too, think about the petty things that I often rode my son about, they seem so trivial now. I still send him texts on his cell phone, I use to call it often, hoping he would answer but now I hardly call it because I don't like to hear the out-of-service message. I also think about the day that I found out that my son was in ICU in the hospital, he had been missing and was there for 30hrs! I knew that something horrible had to have happened, my other children and my parents tried to hide it from me. They all knew where he was about 2 hrs before I did. He was admitted as a "john doe" because they couldn't find his ID. I remember how furious I was to see that fictitious name band he had on, I asked them to change it immediately. All I could think of was that he has a life, he's my son, he's a grandson, a brother, nephew, cousin and a friend to many, he's not a "john doe". This is all just so sad. I like that little verse you posted, I will try to think of it and actually believe it.
Dear Lisa, I am so sorry ! I know how hard that had to be. It's a cruel reminder how the world goes on without our children when it feels like our world has ended. I am sorry that your baby was taken away way too soon. I took for granted that all of my children would always be here. I always thought that "other" people lost their children, never me! None of us are exempt.
I feel everyone's pain, in a perfect world, this pain would be non-existent, hugs to everyone.
Good Morning Ladies! I need some advice today. My daughter was in an on-line support group, much like this one, for young people dealing with gastroparesis. She had never met any of these people personally and had known them on-line for a very short time.
About six weeks ago, I had gathering at my home and I invited all of Roxanne's friends to come over. I allowed them to each go into her room and pick out an item that was special to them (I had already put things away that I did not want to get rid of) I had them all write in a journal what item they chose anad why it was special to them.
Now for the problem, there is a lady (not a teenager but a grown up lady with 3 kids!) from the gastroparesis group that keeps sending me emails bugging me to send her something to Roxanne's to remember her by. This woman did not even know my daughter other than their on-line chats. Her persistence in this is beginning to really creep me out. What should I do?
I would explain to her that at this time you are not shipping things to people that you do not know. Explain that while your daughter may have been involved with the online group you are uncomfortable sending things to unknown people. I would also ask her why she feels it so important to have something. If she cannot give a good enough answer you can block her Email and report her as a spammer to make her back off.
Thanks Ann that's a good idea. I think one of the things this woman is after is someone to support her through her illness, but I simply cannot be that person. Surely she can understand that! I lost my baby to that horribe disease, I don't want to hear about someone else's battle with it, not right now. Today, she sent me a message and asked me to send copies of Roxanne's lab reports!
My prayers are with you over the loss of your daughter. I do not know anything about the illness she had but losing a child in any fashion is devastating. In regards to this woman wanting lab reports -- tell her they are confidential, you are not sending her anything, then block her. Personally I think she may have a screw loose. (Pardon me if that is too blunt. Been one of those days.)
Thinking of you all & hoping you are doing okay. Noticed that everyone seems to be quiet right now. I hope that is for the good and not bad. Blessings to all.
It's been a year and I still miss my son so bad it feels like I could die from it. There is no one in my life that cares to hear about it anymore.. they have all "moved on".I suffer alone and still go through wild emotions like loving him tremendously one minute and then being so angry at him that I wish I could call him just to scream at him for leaving me (it wasnt his fault so that doesnt make sense.) . I have learned how to hide my grief infront of other people to make them feel more comfortable but it makes me feel fake and like a liar...but I realize people are over it and no longer wish to be a part of my grief. I am attending school and work full time and that has helped me more than anything because I dont let myself think about my son while I am at work or school but on weekends and holidays when I am home I am a mess and I dont know how to get it together but I am getting alot of practice at looking like I have it together which actually makes me feel worse. Some days my grief is so intense that I am literally paralysed with it and do absoultely nothing but cry. Knowing the pain is never going to get any better leaves me with little hope and I am lost in the struggle to find out who I really am since I am not "Mom" anymore and how to forge a new life now that my son (who was also my best friend) is gone. I am intersted in hearing from anyone who would like to be friends, I dont necessisarily need to talk about my son or my grief constantly, I would just like to have a friend that could understand if I am not mary sunshine all the time.
Jodi, what can I say except that I understand. I considered my son my best friend too and I just noticed that we lost them one day apart. My son's death is recorded as July 14, 2010. I think it's good that you have work and school. I am at home and the quiet is overwhelming sometimes. I still look towards the door when I think I hear it and expect him to walk in. I don't know how much better it will get, but I don't believe it will ever go away. I know I will have this pain with me for the rest of my life, but I pray it eases up. I can only imagine how hard this is for you. I can't seem to think straight right now. I'm sorry. My mind won't let me concentrate. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Just know I'm thinking of you and care. Blessings.
Hello Jodi, Ammy and everyone. It's like what the both of you posted, I posted it. It's sad that we are all connected in this grief from the loss of our children but at least we do have support here from others that truly understand. I am still struggling with the thought or expectations of others, that I will be "ok" with all of this one day. "OK".....how can I ever be "OK"?! What's "OK" about burying your child? I know that somewhere, way down deep, I should be grateful for each sunrise but instead, it's just become a cruel reminder that my son passed away. It still makes me feel angry. As much as my thoughts of the joy of my pregnancy with my son, and different moments throughout his life, like his favorite bike when he was 6 yrs old that he almost passed out when he saw it for the first time, he was beyond excited, Iike his Big Bird birthday cake when he was 2 yrs old and so many more........is as fast as my thoughts become angry and sad and I end up feeling broken. My son is not a "MEMORY" to me......he's my son. I was supposed to share those memories with him and his future children, I was supposed to make a speech one day at his wedding. I never imagined that my son would be robbed of his life at 21yrs old.
This experience is definitely showing me how fragile life really is and how petty most things are that people complain about.....I use to complain about things that are now so insignificant. My joy that I thought I once had in my life is gone. I took for granted that my children would always be here with me until I left them, not the other way around.
It's like I am feeling the same thing that people don't want to listen to me "complain" or be around my sadness all the time but those same ones, all have there children.
Thank you for replying to me and I am sorry for both of your losses.I truely am.I wouldnt wish this hell on anyone. Ammy, My son passed away sometime in the early hours of July 13.. sometime after midnight.. I really dont know when becuase I never got the autopsy report.. I still dont know why he died either. I know what you mean by hearing the door open and expecting to see him, I do the same thing.. he had certain times that he would come home and still even after a year, I still look towards the door at those times even though I know he isnt comming and feel worse that I let myself do it. I still buy 2 candybars out of habit and cry when I see them in the bag and realize what I have done without thinking. Buying things for my son was a habit that I enjoyed and it is hard for me to stop. I know some people would think that is crazy.
Karen, My son was 2 months shy of being 20 years old. He had finally decided 6 months before to get himself together and enrolled himself in school to become a diesel mechanic. In the weeks just before his death I saw him changing in amazing ways he was more polite, cleaning up his own messes, finding his own ride home from school, doing his own laundry and applying for jobs daily. he would call or text me a couple times a day to check on me. he was becomming a better son and a better human being, so reading what you wrote got to me. I wanted to see how he was going to "turn out".And it makes me all the more sad that he was finally getting it and trying to grow up and get somewhere in his life... he was really trying hard and that makes me really upset and I do feel jipped on some level and feel angry. I was looking forward to see what kind of an adult he was going to turn out to be. I was looking forward to giving him away at his wedding because his dad, my ex-husband died in '07 and wasnt in his life much. I had been both mother and father to him since he was 3. I was looking forward to him having his own children so I could say " I told you it wasnt easy." I know he would have been a good father, he loved children and I am having a hard time with the fact that not only his dreams are gone but also the dreams I had for him are gone... I am having a hard time finding new dreams because honestly, he was my joy.. its hard, we were very close and had always planned on always living together,if not living together in the same house, living very close together..that was his idea so it is even more crushing that he is gone. I dont know that I am in a place to give much advice but I will say that it has made me feel alot better going to classes and suggest anyone who is grieving in involved in something that will get them out of their house and mentally away from their grief for even a little while.
Hey Jodi, I know that it is hard to find comfort but you are probably right about finding other activities for distraction. I plan on volunteering at my youngest school again this year.
I do suggest that anyone who is grieving get involved with some kind of class,club or association so that is awesome that you are going to get involved at a school. I tell myself when I am at school or work that I cannot think of my son. Of course there are alot of times thoughts of him or what happened still sneek in but I tell myself to stop and that I will think about it when I get home. I dont do this because I dont love my son or dont want to think about him, honestly that is all I want to do but I cant fail out of school and I cant get fired for having a nervous breakdown either so i dont have much other choice. At first when i went back to work and school I didnt want to be there, I just wanted to be home crying and when someone would smile at me I would find it hard to smile back and I actually felt like I wanted to flip them off or something but then they didnt know what had happened and they didnt know my life had turned to hell so I started smiling back, at first it felt fake because I didnt feel like smiling at anyone for any reason but then I thought about it and realized that they were just trying to be nice and I really needed somone to be nice to me at that time ( still do). And now I return their smiles and I feel it more often than not just for a second...any happiness is welcome even if it only lasts a second. My sadness is so deep I welcome any break form it even though it comes right back.
I also know about that all too well......feeling fake by smiling back but I do realize that people are just trying to be nice. I think to myself, wow, they have no clue that the tears are flowing on the inside even when they can't be seen on the outside.
Although I have learned to smile on demand. I have also learned to control my tears... I make excuses to leave the room and hide around the corner or in the bathroom and cry just for a second.. like it is some kind of release valve and if I dont do it I will explode. But you are right karen, even when I am not pysically crying the tears are still there on the inside.. I can feel them running down my heart constantly. I hate when someone at school asks me directly if I have kids.. I want to say no and leave it at that but I cant because it feels like a am betraying my sons by denying they ever existed so I have to tell them " I had 2 sons but they are both no longer living." then the person doesnt know what to say and generally wont ever talk to me again.I dont understand that reaction. If I knew someone like that I would do anything I could to be nice and understanding but that is not what I have found from other people they mostly just wont ever talk or even look at me again and it makes me feel like I have a disease they dont want to catch.
Jodi ~ Often the people who refuse to talk to us again are not worth worrying about in the first place as they are not worth it. Please know that here on this forum you can say and cry to your hearts content and we all will send you those so desperate needed hugs. It has been four and a half years since I lost my son. I decided after a couple of years of trying to fake those happy smiles that I am just honest with people. I let them know exactly how I feel whether it is a good day or a bad day (or moment for that matter). When you start trying to fake your emotions you set yourself up for failure and feel worse. Say with pride that you gave birth to two wonderful boys then state unfortunately they are no longer on this earth. Those who are willing to understand will be there for you. The rest can go fly a kite! Until they have walked in our shoes they will never fully understand.
Hey Jodi, I totally agree with Ann's last comment. She's right, do not hide your feelings, the only way that they will truly understand, is if they have suffered the loss of their child and if they haven't, then good for them. You handle it however it's best for you.....at that moment. For me, when I am asked how many children I have, I always include my son, sometimes I say he passed away and sometimes I don't, but I never leave him out of the count, he will always be my son. I don't sugar coat, the "how are you question". just like they may not intentionally be trying to upset me is the same way they should not take my response personally. Our emotions are like a crazy roller coaster ride.
I agree, I dont leave my kids out when I am asked if I have children but sometimes I wish people wouldnt even ask. I hate the way " I have had 2 sons but they both are no longer living." sounds coming out of my mouth. I relive it when I say it and I hate the look on the peoples faces who asked me and they never know what to say...what would I say if someone said that to me?... I dont know.
Hi guys, I had to get off this page for a minute and see if I could stop reliving the pain that I feel. Its NEVER going to go away. I see her in everything and I am so mad at God right now. I dont get the plan, I know that my daughter was miserable here on earth. It says in the bible that God will never give us more than we can handle. Well this is pushing the ticket. Over the past few weeks a very close friend of mine shared with me that she lost a child herself. She and I have been close friends for years and she never told me about it. I was shocked I do understtand about not talking about it. My pain is just that mine, when the tears come I go out into the game room with her ashes,picture, and a lock of her hair and wail. I used to be such a happy person. I was holding my 1 month old grandson and I started to sing you are my sunshine, I could not finish the song. Even in Sarahs adult life I would leave that as a message on her phone. My sunshine is gone, its not coming back. We have started a new bussiness and in the shop I am opening up a little shop inside called Sarahs Secrets. It is something that she and I had talked about and I will see that all the way threw. I dont know where I would be emotionally without my daughter Laura. She is going threw it as I am. We laugh, talk and cry together. I wish there was something special that I could do for each and everyone of you ladies to ease your pain if only for a day
Melissa, I always hate when people say things like God doesn't give us more than we can handle. Losing my son is more than I can handle. Losing a child is more than most people can handle... I am sorry that you lost your daughter Sarah. I am glad you have your daughter Laura to help you through. My girls have been a tremendous help to me as well. Sending love
Hello Melissa, Lorraine and everyone. That's an understatement that the lost of child is too much to bare! I can NOT "handle" this one minute. I almost got into a car accident today because I thought I saw my son talking to another person on the sidewalk. I wanted him to be my son, he looked just like him. Accepting that it was not him only made me angry. I am finding that more and more, to get through the days, I convince myself that nothing ever happened to my son, I tell myself that my mind is playing tricks on me or I am having a nightmare. I still feel like the best place for my son is here, with me and his family.
I wish I could give each and everyone of you a hug but most of all. I wish I could somehow give you your child back......safe and sound.
It seems so common for many of us to continue to "search" for that person who looks like our child; I do this as well, and have another friend who lost her son and she has had such difficulty accepting that it isn't. Ultimately the young men I look at are never as sparkly as Silas was, of course :-) but it never stops me from searching. Today felt really hard for me; it is coming up on the diagnosis time of my son's cancer in October and it is also his birthday during that time. He went into the hospital via ambulance to the ER on October 1, 2007; they took an exray for what they thought was a pinched nerve ~ half his c4 vertabra was eaten away by cancer. October 1 is his oldest sister's birthday; and Sy's is 4 days later, they were born 3 years apart... so this is a time to celebrate my beautiful children, and yet it is also so full of sorrow. Not that any day feels easy, it hasn't been yet. But I don't ever want the grief to be more than the joy of having Silas in my life and being his mom. I wish our children would come back too, Karen; my heart goes out to everyone here every day. This has been hell... I hope that everyone finds little moments of peace, that is my wish for this day. I am not religious, do not judge whatever works for anyone else; I just CANNOT accept that my son is gone & it would piss him off if I referred to him as my "angel child" haha. That would make him mad, although I respect those who refer to their children as angels. Silas would be like "really, Mom??? seriously stop now." He was very funny & oh, I could go on, so I will just shut up. Feeling the loss :-(
Hey Lorraine, I too always hope for moments of peace for us all. I am glad but yet saddened that I am not alone in regards to "searching" for my son. Having other children does not make up for the loss of one, one does not replace another. We never want to bury any of our children, it's just not an option. There were many days that I did not want to be "mommy" to anyone after the loss of my son. As time has passed, I push forward to be there for my other loved ones because I know they still need me. My heart is with all of you guys also.
Hello to all. I pray that today is a better day for each one of you, but I am also realistic with knowing that is doubtful. Some days I try to lean more on the positive side. I'm still like a ball bouncing off walls. Back and forth from one emotion to the next. As Lorraine & Karen mentioned 'searching' for their child it made me remember last fall when I saw a young man that looked so much like my son from the side that I just stared and stared taking in that face. I had to restrain myself from going up to him and asking for a hug. How crazy is that? Yesterday was 14 months for us and we finally planted his tree that we have had sitting here since July. It felt good to put it where he liked to fish. It's a public place so if we move we can always go there and sit by the water. I also had my first dream in a year. I have prayed to have a dream of my son. I will take anything I can to see him whether it's real or not. I think it was the first time I woke up with a calm feeling over me. I am also like you Karen in that I don't think I truly believe he is really gone. I always catch myself thinking I have to tell him something, or when he gets here he'll do it. All kinds of things go through my mind making him still alive. Then the hard realization comes, but I still continue to do it over and over. Maybe it's a self protection thing...I don't know. I just know I feel okay when I'm thinking it. For some reason I could go on and on today, but I better stop here. Sending you all my love, prayers, and blessings. Wish they could help. <3
@Lorraine ~ I just watched the video of Silas. It was hard for me to watch because I know he is not with you anymore. He was a wonderful person, but even if he wasn't, he was your son and that is what matters. I noticed in the video a tattoo and it made me remember (or at least I think I remember) you getting the same tattoo. A flying 8 ball? Am I thinking straight? I searched first, but couldn't find what I thought I had read on here before. Anyway, it was a very touching video. Sending hugs. {{{hug}}}
Greetings Ammy and all, that's nice that you had a dream about your son. I haven't had one about my son for quite awhile now. I long for one so much because I'll take seeing him anyway I can. I too have had to fight the overwhelming urge to hug young men/boys that remind me of my son. When I see these young guys riding on motorcycles, my pain only intensifies, I imagine my son on that dreadful night when he was riding his friend's motorcycle. I want to scream at all of them not to ride. It's so hard because that same friend of my son's, still rides a motorcycle like a maniac. It's like he tortures me with it, he's our next door neighbor. He has 2 motorcycles and a 4wheeler. He was one of my son's best friends, they were friends since they were 5 yrs old. He hardly looks at me when he sees me outside, sometimes he speaks, sometimes he doesn't. Deepdown I know that it wasn't his fault but I thought that after he saw what happened to my son, he would stop riding but instead he rides more.
Hi Ammy, I am so glad you got your dream. those dreams are precious, and sometimes feel like visits. I haven't had any that have felt that real for awhile now. I take whatever I can get, as we all do I believe; whatever brings comfort. Thank you for watching the video on my Silas; I love that I can still hear his voice through this documentary. Sy was a wonderful person in many ways and is missed by so many...The video was difficult to make, but I am glad I did it as it was a project that was important to Sy. Yes, Silas had a pool shark tattooed on his back, which I then had done on mine once he passed on. I still can't believe he is gone. I know those sentiments are shared by friends here with your children. It is just so strange that this has become our lives now; and more than that, I am still mad Silas didn't get to finish doing things that were important to him, I wonder if i will ever get over that. He was very busy and loving it all... then cancer hit. Whatever the cause of death, I believe the feelings are often similar when you are enduring the loss of a beloved child. Sending love to all my friends here, good night
Hi all. I don't have a lot of time this morning to read the new posts...but from just what I have got to read, it has confirmed for me that I am not alone in "seeing" my son in other people. There are times when a trip to wal-mart is devastating. I "see" Hunter in a kid standing in line or in the parking lot. It seems as the age doesn't matter. They may look like what he did at a younger age or they may be older than what Hunter was when he died but makes me think of what he would have looked like. Maybe it is someone that "looks" like him or someone that walks like him. It could be the shirt that they are wearing. It can overwhelm at times. Other times it brings back good memories. All of the time though, it reminds me that he is not with me physically. Some days, I make it through without crying. Other days, I have to sit in the car and gain my composure. I wish life was the way it used to be. Before the drugs. Before everything went wrong. I pray for dreams of my son ....I pray to make it through my work day without crying in front of everyone and feeling like the outcast. The one that somedays no one knows what to say to me. The one that feels out of place and alone. The one that other days just wish everyone would shut-up and leave me alone. The feelings change every moment....what's in store today???? God Bless all of you and I hope your day brings a great memory of your child.
Greetings Lorie, you are definitely not alone. It doesn't matter what age the person may be. This is all just so hard and sad. I know what you mean about feeling like the outcast and the feeling like no one knows what to say to you, especially if they see you are upset. I have had more overwhelming moments at public places more than I can count. Thanks for your support with wishes of good memories of our children.
As I'm looking at all the pictures here of children lost, I tend to become lost in thought about each one. I stare in disbelief (almost) and wonder how can this be. Is this the way it has always been? We lived our lives normally, never knowing or really believing how fast it could be changed. Never knowing (regarding) that there were families suffering these kind of losses. That is why I am trying so hard not to judge others when they seem so unattached to our situation. They simply haven't a clue, and I was one of them at one time. WOW!! That bothers me.
Ammy, I know what you are saying. No one knows this kind of suffering untl they have experienced it themselves. I remember being the one that didn't know the right words to say to a parent who's child had died. I remember being the one who tried not to say the wrong thing when they were around. Now, I am the person that people seem to walk on eggshells around. I am the one who feels like the outcast at times. Everything can change in a blink of an eye. I think for me, the "what ifs" is a very hard part to this new life. Plus, listening to people who think that death or tragedy won't happen to them or their family...then I am forced to remember that there was a time when I thought the same thing.
What an awful day. =( This morning I CHOSE to get up out of bed and get dressed. I CHOSE to eat breakfast even though I wasn't hungry because it's not good for me to go without food. I CHOSE to come to work, even though all I wanted to do was stay in bed where it's warm and quiet and safe. It's only noon and I'm already exhausted even though I have done next to nothing today. Until you're here, you never understand how truly exhausting it can be to just get through the day.
Hi Lisa... H ave had days like this... having one today... woke up with another strange dream about my son.... (Had one last Friday and felt EXACTLY like you are talking about in your post) FORCED myself to go to work... CRAMMED all of my Emotions away so I would not fall apart on the "Outside" and just felt like getting through the day was an endurance run. I understand this exhaustion you feel.... I find myself hiding in the shower... crying so hard I can not breate through my nose.... thenyawning.... like our kids cried and then slept.... It is a day when I just want to stay in bed too.... and today it is raining too.
Went to a bread store where I met another friend who is 2 years past the death of her husband and we both talked about how hard these grief feelings are and that it seems like the "Normal" world doesn't seem to care or understand. it is Fall and it seems like many of us are "Falling Apart"..... Hugs
I truly understand now why my grief counselor refers to it as "working through the grief" People don't realize how hard it really is to make the right choices. To do what is best for us. If I did what I WANTED to do, I would probably never get of bed! It's strange now to have to make a conscious effort to do things that normally I would do without thinking, like eating. A co-worker this morning said to me "I don't like it when you're sad. You were happy and smiling yesterday why are you sad today?" Really? does she not realize that for me to be happy and smiling takes a conscious EFFORT on my part and that some days, like today, I just don't have the energy to pull it off.
I understand what you guys mean about everything being an effort. I know that I really am doing better than I was six months ago or a year ago...but I still want to stay in bed (well piled up on the couch) more than anything. And I have noticed that since my son Hunter died, I can not retain a thought for any length of time. Is that a symptom of post traumatic stress disorder??? I forget things so easily now. Every day is a new emotion, some days, like you said Lisa, I can smile, while other days it is all I can do to hold it together until I am alone and can cry.
Lorie, I have that same problem. I've had to learn to make myself notes for EVERYTHING or I'll forget. I asked my counselor about it and he said that, yes, it's a stress symptom. It's so frustrating though! And it takes me hours to complete the simplest tasks sometimes, like cleaning house, because I get sidetracked so easily. But we have to learn to be kind to ourselves, and even though it's hard sometimes, to take care of ourselves. I loved the perspective that my counselor gave me. He said "You will never again be the person you were before she died. And the person you will become depends on the choices that you make now." I have to make good choices so that my future self can lead as happy, healthy and well balanced life as possible.
Lisa, You have a wise counselor! Thank you for sharing that. Any task seems like struggle. I always seem to have to "take a break" during anything and then I get very UNmotivated and just don't care if it gets done. I have gained weight from lack of exercise.I look and feel so much older than I did before Hunter died through but this "new life" sucks.I also know that I am stronger than what I think and will make it through because that is what Hunter would have wanted for me. I miss him so much!
Is the absence of every one a good sign or a bad sign? I hope you all are coping. I'm having a hard time and I think it's because of the change of season. Just an excuse I'm giving myself. Yesterday I went into my son's room and went through everything that's left...AGAIN. What am I looking for? I know I need something, but it's not here. I feel like getting in my car and just going off somewhere and try to have a new live, but I have my husband, my daughters, and grandchildren. BUT, for some reason I don't care about them right now. I do care for my son's daughter though. I can't leave her. She's going to turn 3 on Sunday, Oct. 9th, and she's going to want her daddy. This crap is for the birds. I wish I could take her pain as well. It's unfair that a little one has to suffer this loss too. Those that have faith...pray for me. I need some help.
Hey Ammy, I just wanted you to know that I totally understand how you feel. I go through periods where I need to look at and feel and smell some of my son's things and then i have other days when i can not look at them. I find myself more often, when I am by myself, convincing myself that he is really ok and he just has amnesia and can't find his way home, it sounds crazy but sometimes I have to do it. My heart also aches for your grand daughter, this life can be so unfair at times. What could possibly be good that she doesn't have her daddy anymore? How will that ever be "ok"? Try to keep gaining your strength to cope and go on for her if noone else. Once again, I am so sorry for your pain.
Karen R.
Aug 3, 2011
Joan Hardin
Aug 5, 2011
Lisa Adams
Joan, I hear ya! I'm sick to death of people telling me how strong I am, and how much they admire me for it. Bullshit!! I'm not strong, I'm broken beyond repair! I've just learned how to put on a good act so that I don't make THEM uncomfortable with my grief and pain!
I hate to hear of your injustice as well. This world has just gotten too messed up! The criminals have ALL the rights and the victims have none! SHEESH. I was told by my lawyers that I may not have a case against ANY of Raxanne's doctors because nobody can prove exactly WHAT was wrong with her! The way I see it, that was the very reason WHY they are at fault because they gave up trying to figure it out and said that she must be faking things or that it was all in her head. Don't know about you but I've never once heard of a psychosomatic illness KILLING somebody!
Sorry, didn't mean to go off on a rant. Thinking of you and praying for you Joan. I know this must be an especially hard day. {{Hugs}}
Aug 5, 2011
Karen R.
Dear Joan and everyone, go ahead and scream if you want to!!!!!!!! None of us signed up for this crap! The people/agency responsible for robbing me and my son of his life, have not been brought to justice yet either. My son's voice has been silenced but mine's has not!
Still depending on my mood and who the person is, when asked that question...."how are you?".......I answer by saying things could be a lot better or I'm hurting, I'm broken, I'm fu@ked up!!!(excuse the language), sometimes I say, " how do you think I feel, can you get me my son back?"!!!!! I have never really cared much about making others feel uncomfortable because it is truly not intended that way and it bothers me that some people take it personal. I am not going to lie about how I feel, before my son passed away, I probably would have but not now, no way. Some of us grieve and mourn the same way and many of us grieve different. No one can pass judgement, especially someone that has not walked in our shoes.
Hugs to everyone.
Aug 5, 2011
Karen R.
Normal is having tears waiting behind every smile when you realizesomeone important is missing from all the important events in your family's life.
Normal is feeling like you can't sit another minute without getting up and screaming because you just don't like to sit through anything.
Normal is not sleeping very well because a thousand what if's & why didn't I's go through your head constantly.
Normal is reliving that day continuously through your eyes and mind, holding your head to make it go away.
Normal is having the TV on the minute I walk into the house to have noise, because the silence is deafening.
Normal is every happy event in my life always being backed up with sadness lurking close behind, because of the hole in my heart.
Normal is telling the story of your child's death as if it were an everyday, commonplace activity, and then seeing the horror in someone's eyes at how awful it sounds. And yet realizing it has become a part of my "normal".
Normal is having some people afraid to mention my baby.
Normal is making sure that others remember her.
Normal is weeks, months, and years after the initial shock, the grieving gets worse sometimes, not better.
Normal is not listening to people compare anything in their life to this loss, unless they too have lost a child. NOTHING. Even if your child is in the remotest part of the earth away from you - it doesn't compare. Losing a parent is horrible, but having to bury your own child is unnatural.
Normal is taking pills, and trying not to cry all day, because I know my mental health depends on it.
Normal is realizing I do cry everyday.
Normal is disliking jokes about death or funerals, bodies being referred to as cadavers, when you know they were once someone's loved one.
Normal is being impatient with everything and everyone, but someone stricken with grief over the loss of your child.
Normal is sitting at the computer crying, sharing how you feel with chat buddies who have also lost a child.
Normal is feeling a common bond with friends on the computer in England, Australia, Canada, the Netherlands and all over the USA, but yet never having met any of them face to face.
Normal is a new friendship with another grieving mother, talking and crying together over our children and our new lives.
Normal is not listening to people make excuses for God. "God may have done this because..." I love God, I know that my baby is in heaven,but hearing people trying to think up excuses as to why babies were taken from this earth is not appreciated and makes absolutely no sense to this grieving mother.
Normal is being too tired to care if you paid the bills, cleaned the house, did laundry or if there is any food.
Normal is wondering this time whether you are going to say you have a child, because you will never see this person again and it is not worth explaining that my baby is in heaven. And yet when you say you have no children to avoid that problem, you feel horrible as if you have betrayed your baby.
Normal is avoiding McDonald's and Burger King playgrounds because of small, happy children that break your heart when you see them.
Normal is asking God why he took your child's life instead of yours and asking if there even is a God.
Normal is knowing I will never get over this loss, in a day or a million years.
And last of all, Normal is hiding all the things that have become "normal" for you to feel, so that everyone around you will think thatyou are "normal".
~Written by someone that knows exactly what I'm going through, this woman loss her baby girl, it does not matter how old your child is, they will always be your baby.
Aug 9, 2011
Laura Villarreal
Aug 9, 2011
Ammy
Karen, thanks for sharing that writing. Reading it and seeing how true it all is was hard, but I have to face that reality even though I do everything I can to avoid it. Always trying to make my thoughts go to something else is so tiring, but even after a year I seem to constantly be thinking of my son. As soon as my eyes open in the morning and when I'm trying to get to sleep at night, he is with me. Sometimes I feel like I am being so selfish because I pray and cry out to forget, but then I'm afraid I will forget. I already struggle with trying to remember what his voice sounded like. I want to hear him talk to me again and then the guilt comes again because I remember so many times when he would be talking to me and I wanted him to stop. Those were the times when he was talking what I call 'nonsense'. Oh what I would give to hear 'nonsense' again. Wednesdays are particularly hard for me still. I always seem to notice the time around 9:30 a.m. when the police came to the house. I didn't need to be told, I knew he was gone. I thank you all for your posts. They help me keep going many days. I'm sorry I don't connect often, but I want to lift up and I have nothing to give you to help lift you up, so I usually remain quiet. Be blessed.
I have been reading this little verse this week. It does seem to help me.
A Fallen Limb
A limb has fallen from the family tree
I keep hearing a voice that says,"Grieve Not for Me."
Remember the best times,the laughter, the songs,
the good life I lived while I was strong.
My mind is at ease, I am at rest.
Aug 10, 2011
Lisa Adams
Aug 10, 2011
Ammy
Aug 10, 2011
Karen R.
Greetings Ammy, I know all about stuggling to put your thoughts on something else. Trust me, don't worry, you will never forget your baby, your child. My heart just ached when I read that poem from the mother that lost her baby girl. It ached so much because I could feel every word. I too, think about the petty things that I often rode my son about, they seem so trivial now. I still send him texts on his cell phone, I use to call it often, hoping he would answer but now I hardly call it because I don't like to hear the out-of-service message. I also think about the day that I found out that my son was in ICU in the hospital, he had been missing and was there for 30hrs! I knew that something horrible had to have happened, my other children and my parents tried to hide it from me. They all knew where he was about 2 hrs before I did. He was admitted as a "john doe" because they couldn't find his ID. I remember how furious I was to see that fictitious name band he had on, I asked them to change it immediately. All I could think of was that he has a life, he's my son, he's a grandson, a brother, nephew, cousin and a friend to many, he's not a "john doe". This is all just so sad. I like that little verse you posted, I will try to think of it and actually believe it.
Thanks for your support.
Aug 10, 2011
Karen R.
Dear Lisa, I am so sorry ! I know how hard that had to be. It's a cruel reminder how the world goes on without our children when it feels like our world has ended. I am sorry that your baby was taken away way too soon. I took for granted that all of my children would always be here. I always thought that "other" people lost their children, never me! None of us are exempt.
I feel everyone's pain, in a perfect world, this pain would be non-existent, hugs to everyone.
Aug 10, 2011
Lisa Adams
Good Morning Ladies! I need some advice today. My daughter was in an on-line support group, much like this one, for young people dealing with gastroparesis. She had never met any of these people personally and had known them on-line for a very short time.
About six weeks ago, I had gathering at my home and I invited all of Roxanne's friends to come over. I allowed them to each go into her room and pick out an item that was special to them (I had already put things away that I did not want to get rid of) I had them all write in a journal what item they chose anad why it was special to them.
Now for the problem, there is a lady (not a teenager but a grown up lady with 3 kids!) from the gastroparesis group that keeps sending me emails bugging me to send her something to Roxanne's to remember her by. This woman did not even know my daughter other than their on-line chats. Her persistence in this is beginning to really creep me out. What should I do?
Aug 12, 2011
Ann Edmondson
Aug 12, 2011
Lisa Adams
Aug 12, 2011
Sandra LaBonte
Lisa,
I was going to say send her a copy of a picture until I read the part about the lab reports. Now I agree with Ann , I think you should block her.
Sandy
Aug 12, 2011
Ann Edmondson
Aug 12, 2011
Ammy
Aug 22, 2011
Jodi Denton
Aug 22, 2011
Ammy
Aug 22, 2011
Karen R.
Hello Jodi, Ammy and everyone. It's like what the both of you posted, I posted it. It's sad that we are all connected in this grief from the loss of our children but at least we do have support here from others that truly understand. I am still struggling with the thought or expectations of others, that I will be "ok" with all of this one day. "OK".....how can I ever be "OK"?! What's "OK" about burying your child? I know that somewhere, way down deep, I should be grateful for each sunrise but instead, it's just become a cruel reminder that my son passed away. It still makes me feel angry. As much as my thoughts of the joy of my pregnancy with my son, and different moments throughout his life, like his favorite bike when he was 6 yrs old that he almost passed out when he saw it for the first time, he was beyond excited, Iike his Big Bird birthday cake when he was 2 yrs old and so many more........is as fast as my thoughts become angry and sad and I end up feeling broken. My son is not a "MEMORY" to me......he's my son. I was supposed to share those memories with him and his future children, I was supposed to make a speech one day at his wedding. I never imagined that my son would be robbed of his life at 21yrs old.
This experience is definitely showing me how fragile life really is and how petty most things are that people complain about.....I use to complain about things that are now so insignificant. My joy that I thought I once had in my life is gone. I took for granted that my children would always be here with me until I left them, not the other way around.
It's like I am feeling the same thing that people don't want to listen to me "complain" or be around my sadness all the time but those same ones, all have there children.
Thanks for listening, I cry with you guys.
Aug 22, 2011
Jodi Denton
Dear Ammy and Karen,
Thank you for replying to me and I am sorry for both of your losses.I truely am.I wouldnt wish this hell on anyone. Ammy, My son passed away sometime in the early hours of July 13.. sometime after midnight.. I really dont know when becuase I never got the autopsy report.. I still dont know why he died either. I know what you mean by hearing the door open and expecting to see him, I do the same thing.. he had certain times that he would come home and still even after a year, I still look towards the door at those times even though I know he isnt comming and feel worse that I let myself do it. I still buy 2 candybars out of habit and cry when I see them in the bag and realize what I have done without thinking. Buying things for my son was a habit that I enjoyed and it is hard for me to stop. I know some people would think that is crazy.
Karen, My son was 2 months shy of being 20 years old. He had finally decided 6 months before to get himself together and enrolled himself in school to become a diesel mechanic. In the weeks just before his death I saw him changing in amazing ways he was more polite, cleaning up his own messes, finding his own ride home from school, doing his own laundry and applying for jobs daily. he would call or text me a couple times a day to check on me. he was becomming a better son and a better human being, so reading what you wrote got to me. I wanted to see how he was going to "turn out".And it makes me all the more sad that he was finally getting it and trying to grow up and get somewhere in his life... he was really trying hard and that makes me really upset and I do feel jipped on some level and feel angry. I was looking forward to see what kind of an adult he was going to turn out to be. I was looking forward to giving him away at his wedding because his dad, my ex-husband died in '07 and wasnt in his life much. I had been both mother and father to him since he was 3. I was looking forward to him having his own children so I could say " I told you it wasnt easy." I know he would have been a good father, he loved children and I am having a hard time with the fact that not only his dreams are gone but also the dreams I had for him are gone... I am having a hard time finding new dreams because honestly, he was my joy.. its hard, we were very close and had always planned on always living together,if not living together in the same house, living very close together..that was his idea so it is even more crushing that he is gone. I dont know that I am in a place to give much advice but I will say that it has made me feel alot better going to classes and suggest anyone who is grieving in involved in something that will get them out of their house and mentally away from their grief for even a little while.
Aug 23, 2011
Karen R.
Aug 23, 2011
Jodi Denton
Karen,
I do suggest that anyone who is grieving get involved with some kind of class,club or association so that is awesome that you are going to get involved at a school. I tell myself when I am at school or work that I cannot think of my son. Of course there are alot of times thoughts of him or what happened still sneek in but I tell myself to stop and that I will think about it when I get home. I dont do this because I dont love my son or dont want to think about him, honestly that is all I want to do but I cant fail out of school and I cant get fired for having a nervous breakdown either so i dont have much other choice. At first when i went back to work and school I didnt want to be there, I just wanted to be home crying and when someone would smile at me I would find it hard to smile back and I actually felt like I wanted to flip them off or something but then they didnt know what had happened and they didnt know my life had turned to hell so I started smiling back, at first it felt fake because I didnt feel like smiling at anyone for any reason but then I thought about it and realized that they were just trying to be nice and I really needed somone to be nice to me at that time ( still do). And now I return their smiles and I feel it more often than not just for a second...any happiness is welcome even if it only lasts a second. My sadness is so deep I welcome any break form it even though it comes right back.
Aug 23, 2011
Karen R.
Aug 23, 2011
Jodi Denton
Aug 24, 2011
Ann Edmondson
Aug 24, 2011
Karen R.
Aug 24, 2011
Jodi Denton
Sep 3, 2011
Melissa Szuch
Sep 7, 2011
Lorraine
Sep 7, 2011
Karen R.
Hello Melissa, Lorraine and everyone. That's an understatement that the lost of child is too much to bare! I can NOT "handle" this one minute. I almost got into a car accident today because I thought I saw my son talking to another person on the sidewalk. I wanted him to be my son, he looked just like him. Accepting that it was not him only made me angry. I am finding that more and more, to get through the days, I convince myself that nothing ever happened to my son, I tell myself that my mind is playing tricks on me or I am having a nightmare. I still feel like the best place for my son is here, with me and his family.
I wish I could give each and everyone of you a hug but most of all. I wish I could somehow give you your child back......safe and sound.
Sep 8, 2011
Lorraine
Sep 11, 2011
Karen R.
Sep 11, 2011
Ammy
Sep 15, 2011
Ammy
Sep 15, 2011
Karen R.
Greetings Ammy and all, that's nice that you had a dream about your son. I haven't had one about my son for quite awhile now. I long for one so much because I'll take seeing him anyway I can. I too have had to fight the overwhelming urge to hug young men/boys that remind me of my son. When I see these young guys riding on motorcycles, my pain only intensifies, I imagine my son on that dreadful night when he was riding his friend's motorcycle. I want to scream at all of them not to ride. It's so hard because that same friend of my son's, still rides a motorcycle like a maniac. It's like he tortures me with it, he's our next door neighbor. He has 2 motorcycles and a 4wheeler. He was one of my son's best friends, they were friends since they were 5 yrs old. He hardly looks at me when he sees me outside, sometimes he speaks, sometimes he doesn't. Deepdown I know that it wasn't his fault but I thought that after he saw what happened to my son, he would stop riding but instead he rides more.
Thanks for the continues support from everyone
Sep 15, 2011
Lorraine
Sep 15, 2011
Lorie Dunn
Sep 16, 2011
Karen R.
Sep 16, 2011
Ammy
As I'm looking at all the pictures here of children lost, I tend to become lost in thought about each one. I stare in disbelief (almost) and wonder how can this be. Is this the way it has always been? We lived our lives normally, never knowing or really believing how fast it could be changed. Never knowing (regarding) that there were families suffering these kind of losses. That is why I am trying so hard not to judge others when they seem so unattached to our situation. They simply haven't a clue, and I was one of them at one time. WOW!! That bothers me.
Hugs, blessings, and comfort to all.
Sep 25, 2011
Lorie Dunn
Sep 25, 2011
Lisa Adams
What an awful day. =( This morning I CHOSE to get up out of bed and get dressed. I CHOSE to eat breakfast even though I wasn't hungry because it's not good for me to go without food. I CHOSE to come to work, even though all I wanted to do was stay in bed where it's warm and quiet and safe. It's only noon and I'm already exhausted even though I have done next to nothing today. Until you're here, you never understand how truly exhausting it can be to just get through the day.
Sep 29, 2011
Grace
Hi Lisa... H ave had days like this... having one today... woke up with another strange dream about my son.... (Had one last Friday and felt EXACTLY like you are talking about in your post) FORCED myself to go to work... CRAMMED all of my Emotions away so I would not fall apart on the "Outside" and just felt like getting through the day was an endurance run. I understand this exhaustion you feel.... I find myself hiding in the shower... crying so hard I can not breate through my nose.... thenyawning.... like our kids cried and then slept.... It is a day when I just want to stay in bed too.... and today it is raining too.
Went to a bread store where I met another friend who is 2 years past the death of her husband and we both talked about how hard these grief feelings are and that it seems like the "Normal" world doesn't seem to care or understand. it is Fall and it seems like many of us are "Falling Apart"..... Hugs
Sep 29, 2011
Lisa Adams
I truly understand now why my grief counselor refers to it as "working through the grief" People don't realize how hard it really is to make the right choices. To do what is best for us. If I did what I WANTED to do, I would probably never get of bed! It's strange now to have to make a conscious effort to do things that normally I would do without thinking, like eating. A co-worker this morning said to me "I don't like it when you're sad. You were happy and smiling yesterday why are you sad today?" Really? does she not realize that for me to be happy and smiling takes a conscious EFFORT on my part and that some days, like today, I just don't have the energy to pull it off.
Sep 29, 2011
Lorie Dunn
Sep 29, 2011
Lisa Adams
Sep 29, 2011
Lorie Dunn
Sep 30, 2011
Ammy
Oct 5, 2011
Karen R.
Oct 5, 2011
Ammy
Oct 5, 2011