Sandra I can relate to your statement that no one needs you like your baby did, that is how I feel about Sarah. I am fortunate that I do have a wonderful daughter , son, son-in-law and three beautiful grand children. As a matter of fact if it werent for my daughter Laura I dont know where I would be she hold me and crys with me. The only time that my mind is at rest is when I am at her house holding or playing with my grand children. When I am left alone my mind goes back to the sadness and loss that I feel. Last nights trigger was "Do you think she knew that I loved her?" I know that she did and have the cell phone messages and the texts on my phone to replay. So why do I doubt? Why do I play her death over and over in my mind? am I some sort of sadist that I want to feel the pain over an over? No It is just something that happens I wont even be thinking about my beautiful daughter and it slams me out fo no where... She is gone, how am I going to make it without you? I love you Sarah, I miss you so much it hurts
Oh, I am just beside myself! I went out last night and the "thoughts" were really getting hold of me, so I called a friend that had lost a child several years ago and told her that I was suicidal. She talked to me for hours until I was past the worst of it. She told me to go home and write on my board all the reasons we had talked about why I couldn't take my life.
As I was doing this, my boyfriend came home from spending yet another night out "with the guys" and asked me what I was doing. I finally broke down and told him that I wanted to kill myself. Did he take me in his arms and console me? No! Did he ask if I felt I needed to go to a hospital? No! He got angry at me! Then he looked at me with an evil, smug look and said "You won't kill yourself. You don't have it in you." What, you're going to DARE me to do it? UN - F'ING - BELIEVABLE!!
OMG!! Lisa you certainly dont need that!! WOW....I'd be showing him the door! I just don't understand why the men in our lives are acting like this. Why can't they understand that our world is shattered?? Every reason we lived for is gone. Our hears are broken into a million pieces never to be whole again. Why is that so hard to understand???
Oh sweet Sandra, I am so sorry. I really do know how you feel, all I can say is thank goodness for my little one. Some people think that sounds so cruel like the rest of my children don't matter but that is not the case. I guess it's just that incident I had with her when she voiced her concerns and fears. In some sort of irrational way, I feel like my other children are older and don't "need' me as much. The would argue that is so not true. We all have different circumstances and support systems in our lives. If you feel as though you don't have anyone, at least please try to use all of us, use this site or others. I have mentioned before how one of my older children tries to discourage me from being on this site. She made me so angry. There is no one else that I can talk to that truly gets it. The bottom line is I just want my son back too! I still need the universe to know that I will forever look for my son and I want the world to stop until I find him. I just can't accept any of this.
Dear Lisa, I usually keep my opinion to my self about someone's partner but I am sorry, that was cold what he did....better yet, what he DIDN'T do! How insensitive could someone be? Thank goodness you had your friend. I hope that you don't need him for a damn thing! So sorry.
Thanks Karen and Bobbi. I relate to your comment about your older children. My only other child is 23 now and lives miles away in another state. He has a great job and an exciting future ahead of him and I'm soooo happy for him. But at the same time, I feel like I've lost my identity. I feel like I don't have a purpose anymore.
My friend told me though that my purpose was to carry my daughter's legacy for her, so I'm trying to find my strength again so that I can do that. I just feel so alone. I just wish I had someone that would hold me and me let me hide for just a little while.
Thank you everyone for your thoughts. Rosie, I know what you are saying. My father is a devout Catholic and he is sure I will be in hell if I do. Personally I don't believe that. I think that God knows the difference between someone who is suffering and simply can't take any more and someone who is evil. The Baptist pastor I spoke to told me that as long as I accept Jesus my past, present and future (suicide) sins will be forgiven and I will go to heaven like everyone else. My nephew who is majoring in philosophy say that dead is dead and there is nothing else. I think about these things all the time. I'm so confused. There is also a man that writes on here about the pain of his wife's suicide and I don't know if I can do that to my husband. But most of the time I feel like a big baby having a temper tantrum by saying I just don't care about any of you I just want it over
Greetings Melissa, I am so sorry for your loss. I lost a son when I was 4 months pregnant and I lost my 21 yr old son, 18, 19 or 20 months ago....I don't like to count. I understand the pain of losing a child all to well. It doesn't matter how old your child is when you lose them, it feels so unnatural. I am sorry that I don't have any comforting or encouraging words but I can say that writing my feelings helps because I need my feelings validated and not judged. My heart will forever be broken and I cant imagine ever healing from this, I can only speak what I feel for this moment. I think there is a specific group on this site that consists of parents/members that lost children while they were pregnant, any one you chose does not matter because this is a tragic lost. We are all here for support. I am sorry for your pain.
I really don't know where to turn, what to do. My mate doesn't give me the emotional support that I need and our relationship is crumbling fast. I really want to move out but if I do then I would have very little money to live on each month. Not that he makes much of a contribution anyway, because the home we live in now is basically free. he constantly picks fights with me over STUPID things. Then tells me that my grief his getting on his nerves to the point that he's just going to leave. Fine leave, quit threatening me like you think I'm scared for you to go. I DON'T NEED THIS RIGHT NOW!!! I'm trying not to kill myself and he's barking at me about how I get on his nerves! What should I do?
Hey Lisa, thank goodness my husband was not as harsh as your mate. Since you asked........kick him to the curb!!!! At this point, I am sure that you won't consider him a lost! You don't need that extra stress and pain. Most people in our shoes need that extra TLC. Sometimes we may only require a hug, or just a ear for listening or we may want to be left alone. Our emotions are all over the place and they shouldn't take our actions personal because it's not intended that way. They have to try to understand that are no rules or time limits on how we grieve and mourn. Somedays we made need to scream and/or cry all day, all night. We might feel like killing ourself but we don't expect others that claim to love us, tell us to go ahead because we are getting on their nerves! They don't understand that other people's complaints sound so petty to us and that if you catch us on a bad day, their "threats" of leaving us or cutting us off, really don't matter.
Maybe something will change for the better with him and he will finally "get it" before it's too late. Sorry that you are going through this.
Lisa -- Karen R is right. Do not let this jerk get to you. Tell him if he thinks it is so bad to pack his junk and move out. You said your place is basically free. If it is government housing who ever is listed first on the lease has main possession and you can force him to move. You do not nee his BS!! I do recommend that you find you some counseling. There are many free programs out there for those of us who have lost loved ones. Check with your local library or newspaper listings. For me it was getting involved with my church and having a strong support through them. We should never have to bury our children. And until someone has walked in those shoes they can not understand the pain we are in. And you are always welcome to vent here in this forum. There are no right or wrong ways to feel at any particular time. You will find that you have good days when you remember the fun things about your child. Then there will be other days when you just want to crawl in a hole. Trust me, it has been four and a half years since I lost my son. I still have those days.
Hey Ann and everyone. This this a great forum to vent. I f it wasn't for forums like this, I don't know where I would be now. It is extremely difficult, if not impossible, at times to have people truly understand what we are feeling and why we are feeling this way, if they are not experiencing it.
Thanks Ann and Karen. I actually talked him into going to my counseling appointment with me today and he stayed all of 10 minutes before getting in a huff over something he THOUGHT the counselor said and left. He was looking for a reason to get angry so he could justify to himself for not being there. The counselor actually told me, after my mate left, that I shouldn't make any life altering decisions right now while I'm so over the edge emotionally. So I've decided to just shut up and not let him get to me if at all possible. I have plenty of friends that are more than happy to give out hugs and affection. I hate that it's not the person that should be there the most. Especially after all I've done for him. But Oh well.
You are very welcomed Lisa. I know how it feels to want the closest person to you, to support you through these difficult times. It's as if he is taking your emotional state personally. Unfortunately, he may NEVER get it, he definitely doesn't get it now. He could just be one those people that don't know how to handle traumatic events like ours. Sorry, I hope something changes for the better and if it doesn't, trust me, you will be better off.
Ladies, you are not going to believe this one. I have gone round and round with the people at the cemetary over Roxanne's marker. The woman who helped us when we ordered it was rude and made very insensitive comments. Then they ordered the marker without me proofing it and it WAS WRONG. Then they told me it would be in place by July 3rd. After having to go up to the manager again this past Monday and complain, they finally got the marker down on Wednesday. Guess what? Again, not what I ordered! It didn't even have a flower vase on it! So, I go to the manager again to complain. He assures me they will get it fixed Thursday. So, late last night I go up to the cemetary and my precious girl's grave is torn all to Hell! The granite was knocked over to the side, the flowers that were on the grave were strewn everywhere and it looked like a dog or something had been digging up the dirt! I was so upset!
What?!!!!!! Oh no!, that's horrible! ! I can imagine how you felt, I had a similar incident but not as traumatic as yours, now that I've read what happened to you! Thank goodness that my son's granite monument was exactly what I ordered. The first incidence I had with the cementery was the very next day after my son's funeral/burial, I went to cementery because I was in such denial, to look for my son. I know it sounds crazy but I really believed he could be wondering around somewhere, confused and lost because he had a brain injury. I had my husband drive me around town first before he brought me to the cementery. My husband knew my mental state and he did not want to feel my wrath, so he did it. Anyway, when I get there, I rush over to where he was and I see that there is a huge hole or burial plot next to him that was just being dug for someone else's burial. My heart was pounding out of my chest because all of the dozens of flowers that were placed there, were just thrown all over the place. I started to panic that maybe my son "got out" or that they moved my son. When I fell to my knees, right at the edge, one of the grave diggers came over to me and asked what was wrong and I yelled' who moved my son's flowers?!" and my son could not possibly be down there, this idiot said "oh yeah, i dug your son's grave yesterday, look close, you can see a part of his white casket right there but it's a little hard because there is a cement slab over it". He's pointing, like it was nothing! I could not believe it! My husband had to literally drag me away and fight with me to get me in the car. I cursed every bad word there is. I couldn't believe how cold this bastard was. I was totally unaware that they a place a slab of cement over the casket, i did NOT need to see that, I started thinking that thing on top would really make it hard for him to get out, so I had to convince myself that maybe he got out before they put the slab on. My husband wanted me to go on some antipsychotic medications after that but I would never do that. I told my husband that I am on the worst emotional roller coaster of my life.
Alot of these people that work there. its just a "job" to them. They need to always remember that this is our loved one's final resting place. Some people, like me, have the need and desire to be there as much as possible and others may never want to return there or only visit for birthdays and special events/holidays but for whatever reasons you have, everyone should be treated with respect. I take special care of getting rid of weeds and watering flowers and bushes I have there, it's important to me and I don't want my son's 'place' disrespected, ever. There was another incident when i went to visit and some pictures and candles and some other things were gone. once again that burning rage came over me and I went straight to their office to make a complaint. I told the supervisor that I feel like my son's place was robbed, yes robbed! She tried to reassure me that none of their workers would ever move those things and that maybe another visitor did because the only thing they sometimes remove are dead bouquets of flowers but nothing else. Anyway, thank goodness, nothing has ever been removed again.
The day of Sarahs service I recieved a call from the funeral home and they said there had been a mistake and that Sarah had not been sent to the crematorium and that she was still at the funeral home. I did not have her embalmed because she was being cremated. The guy said that they were willing to put her in a casket but there would be a smell because of decomposition... THIS HORRIFIED ME I FOUND SARAH AFTER 2 DAYS, ALL I COULD PICTURE WAS WHAT SHE LOOKED LIKE AFTER 2 WEEKS! I was so upset, the service went on with an empty coffin, her father was expecting half of her ashes.. Talk about making a already bad day worse... IDK I think they should make them take some sort of empathy class or something. The guy we made Sarahs arrangements with was very nice when we were writing the check however after there mix up and me having to wait another week for her ashes was a lot to take. I didn't want to go back to the place that reminded me of her death.. It was awful...
Oh dear God Melissa, how awful!!! I agree, some of these people need to have empathy training! I called the manager at the funeral home again this morning and told him what I found last night. He called me back 15 minutes later and I could hear some noise in the background. He informed me that he was at the cemetary, had the guys out there working and that he would not leave until it was fixed. And he was true to his word! One of Roxanne's friends got there as they were working and texted me. I asked her to text me a photo when they were done so I could see if it was finally right. It was! FINALLY!! But it shouldn't have taken him literally standing over them to get it done. Wonder how they would feel if it was their loved one!?
Karen, We actually paid extra for Kasey to have the cement. It keeps the ground water out of the casket so it actually serves a good purpose. I was advised to do this by my father in law because when they buried his mother next to his father there was no slab and water got in the coffin. I'm not trying to upset you because those people were callous and rude to you. I was just hoping to make you feel better about the cement because it is protecting your precious son. Melissa, I have no words for you other than I am so very sorry that happened to you. I just don't know what to say. Lisa, I'm glad you finally got the job done right. Kasey's headstone doesn't come for another 2-4 months. I pray I don't have the problems you had. Sandy
Lisa -- I am sooo sorry you are having a difficult time with the arrangements for your little girls grave. It is bad enough that we have to bury our child then to have insensitive people to try and walk all over us just rubs salt into the wound. I wish I could be there to give you the hugs you need. Please accept these cyber hugs instead.
thank u all! I love this group and am so grateful for all of your care, concern and support, It is such a relief to have someone to talk to.
I am at our beach house and told my neighbor that Sarah passed away, she grabbed me and hugged me tight and started to cry. She said "OMG Melissa I am so sorry I Lost my son too he was only 2 years old..I feel your pain. no one unless they have lost a child can know your pain they have no idea!" I was in shock she had never shared with me her loss. Two moms missing there babies just stood there holding each other crying. Best cry that I have had since Sarahs passing. I cannot explain the connection that we now share.
It is bitter sweet being here in Cayucous, everywhere I look I see reminders of her. Us walking down the street to the beach in her wedding gown, then today holding this small little hand of my grandson Aden making the same walk.
We came to spread her ashes, I am not ready for that at all its far to soon! I dont know when, just not now maybe never... who knowns
Hey Sandra, thanks so much for that info!!!! I had no idea. I had absolutely nothing to do with my son's burial arrangements, I was too much of a wreck. Thank goodness my parents volunteered to meet with the funeral director, they chose the section, plot and casket and flowers for me, I could not do it. Thanks again for that info, now I understand.
Lisa, thank goodness that they finally got it right!.....even though you practically had to stand over them. It would never happen if it was their loved one. I hope that a little of your stress was eased.
Everyone........I wish I was able to you give a big hug, I think about you all often and all of the other parents out there that have lost their child. Today I heard my son's voice, loud and clear, say to me 'hi mom". I was laying on my bed, not sleeping and then I heard him, I was ecstatic but then it quickly turned back into my sadness. Some people would maybe say it was wishful thinking or my imagination, whatever the case, I heard him!
Hi, I am just amazed at some of the things I have been reading that you mom's have written. I'm so sorry for those of you that have been having problems with significant others, cemeteries, funeral directors, and people that just don't get it. I don't post often, but try to keep up with the posts. You all are always in my prayers. I have had a bad week myself. July 14th was one year since my/our son left us and I know I have had some good days, but I'm tired. So tired. I'm still not sure I'm going to make it through this. I'm trying so hard for his little girl. She will be 3 in October and is finally realizing that Daddy is not coming back. It's so hard when they don't understand. At this age, how can you explain that they can't come back? Sometimes I can't even understand it. I still catch myself thinking that he will do this or that, or that he'll be coming in the door soon. Then it hits me all over again. That hateful 'NEVER' word. I truly have come to hate that word this past year. He's never coming back, he's never going to call, he's never going to say, 'Ma' again. And his little girl is never going to feel secure in his arms again. I put his videos up to commemorate his life and the second one where he's with his daughter just shows how much he loved her. He always wanted a family, but he was 39 when he finally had a baby. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm just venting out all my feelings. Things I say to myself over and over almost everyday. Wishing you all some comfort, peace, and blessings. Ann
Well, tonight I feel like packing my things and leaving my husband of 30 yrs. He cannot cope with the loss of our only child - our 25 yr old son. We are of no use to each other anymore. He had a meltdown today and I mentioned this tonight to a couple of friends. He figured out that I said something and got furious with me. He doesn't want to show an emotions at all to anyone. It his been almost 16 months and it feels like yesterday. I think our child was the main reason we stayed together all these years and now we have nothing between us. Our precious son is gone forever.
Hello Ann. I, too am amazed at the things that other members write. Keep venting!! It's perfectly fine, you see how much I vent lol! I have to on here because it's too diffficult for my family to understand and its too exhausting trying to make them understand. They don't get that my behavior is NOT chosen and that this is 'normal", what ever that is. There are 2 dreaded words for me, "died" and "never"! They are so harsh, I know how you feel. Thank you for wishes for comfort and peace.
Hello Kenny's mom. I am so sorry for the loss of your son. There are no laws or rules for how we should grieve and mourn. I have become estranged from my husband also, 6 months after my son passed away. He is not my son's biological father but they always had a good relationship. We have a child together. He could not handle my grief and mourning. His famous words were "just stop, you have to stop". He had no idea to handle me and he's not the type of person that would have gone to counseling to try to understand what I was going through. It was my decision to leave because I could not give him the attention and affection he had been use to. It's been about 16 months since we have been separated and I must say that in the last 3 months, our relationship is better. I think it's better because we don't live together, so I don't have to hear him telling me to stop all the time. he was being supportive the best way he knew how but it wasn't the right way for me. He would only make me angry and have resentment for him, I don't believe that his intentions were to hurt me, but nevertheless, that's how I took it. I looked at him as being selfish for wanting me to be the way I was before I lost my son. Some people have a better relationship living apart, he does not want us to be apart and has not stopped trying to convince me to move back.
I hope everything works out for whatever's best for you.
Hello Friends, I pray today will give you a measure of comfort.
Sandra, thank you for the comment on the videos. I can't always look at them, but some days they give me a measure of peace to at least know he had some happiness in his troubled life.
Thanks also to Bobbi & Karen R.. I appreciate your words of kindness.
Each day we feel this ache in our hearts. Each day brings a reminder of who we've lost. Each day is a battle to survive... my son gives me signs in his own way to let me know he's around. For that I feel some comfort. But it's just not the same as hearing his voice, seeing his smile, hearing his music. The 3rd of the month is around the corner.... it will be 5 months since he passed. Each month doesn't get easier. Just reminds me more what I have lost in my life. God help us all who grieve. The ache doesn't go away but the sun goes down every night and comes up the next day. Sigh...
Yesterday was such an odd, akward day. I had my first experience with the dreaded "How many children do you have?" question. I thought I handeled it pretty well and was pretty proud of myself and then immediately after walking away from the person that asked that, I ran into a neighbor I hadn't seen in many months and she says "How is Roxanne doing? I haven't seen her in awhile." I didn't do as well with that one. Finally got out of the store and in the parking lot ran into another old family friend that I had to tell. By the time I got to my car, I was in tears and feeling like I had just walked through a mine field!
Lisa, it sounds like you did just fine. When I am asked that question now I tell them "one, but she is no longer of this earth but now a guardian angel to many". If you fall apart that's really okay...we have walked in your shoes and there is nothing written anywhere that tells us how to get through all the sadness and grief. My personal goal is to be able to talk about my daughter with joy and happiness in my heart. I want anyone and everyone to know about her! Take care.
Laura, thank you. I have a similar goal in that I want to be able to carry on Roxanne's legacy. I had a friend give me the most wonderful compliment the other day. She said "Roxanne was strong, selfless, giving and brave. She didn't have those qualities for just no reason, she got those from you! " I don't feel strong, I don't feel brave, but I know that I am, and I will carry my daughter's light in the world! I have started a foundation called "It's Worth It!" You can check out the info about it on Facebook. We are going to provide college scholarships and research grants to deserving students. We are also going to host a blood drive every year on her birthday. it helps me get through the pain, to focus on something positive that I can do to keep her legacy going.
It's been 7 weeks since my son died. I think I might be getting to the accepting part of all of this. I'm not sure. I hope I am. I talk about him to who ever will listen. I tell his story of how he died and how he lived. How we all loved him. I've asked those who knew him to tell me about him. It has helped, I think. Some days I just know this is unbelievable and I wonder why I would think of him as died (I can't bring myself to say the "d..d" word). Then other days I know he is gone. It's just all crazy. Yesterday I was thinking that I should tell him to come home in July next year because all the raspberries are ripe then. (He loved them!) But then I realized he wont be here. I do think it helps to talk about him to who ever will listen. Maybe they'll get sick of hearing about my Derrick. But I don't really care.......
Hello Bobbi, so sorry. I know about this all seeming so unbelievable. I also talk about my son to whoever will listen. Sorry for your tremdous lost. I will listen any time.
Hello everyone, I have been away for a few days and I didnt have access to a computer but all of you guys were in my thoughts. I read all of the postings since I got back and as usual, my heart aches with all of you. Rosie, I feel like you mentioned, it is still so true for me that with each passing day, its only a reminder that my child is not here, where I can hold him or kiss him or even yell at him about something and the pain just lingers. When I am asked how many children do I have, I always include my son, he is my son and will always be my son. I am so devastated. I am sending out my love and hugs to all, thanks.
i havent been on this site in probably a year. My son died 12-26-09. Still not a day goes without me thinking of Hunter. I still talk about him every day. Some days I think this has to be a dream (nightmare) and I will surely wake up soon. Some days (like today) I dont hold it together too well. I have went back to work..I have learned to "function" again. But some days (like today) I cannot wait to get home so I can be alone and cry myself to sleep.
Debbie -- tell us about your loss. That will help us help you. We are here for you. Many of us just barely cope on a minute by minute basis. Some of us make it a few days before a melt down occurs and we have to cry for a while. So how can we help?
Hello Lorie, I know how you are feeling. That word "FUNCTION" doesnt mean the same to me like it did before the loss of my son. Keep talking about your son, one of us here will surely listen. I, too, am still waiting for this nightmare to be over with. I prefer to be alone when I am crying also. This is too much to bare.
Greetings Debbie, I am sorry for the loss of your loved one. Just as Ann mentioned, we are all here for you, unfortunately, we all understand all to well such tremendous losses. I hope you continue to reach out, there are many forums/groups on this site. For me, it's so important for my feelings and my thoughts to be validated and NOT judged and who better to do that than someone that has walked in my shoes.
So, the past few days have been really good. And then last night the nightmares came back. I hate that because waking up from dreams like that just put a shadow over the whole day. Especially when I wake up crying. Guess today will be one of those days when I have to work extra hard to overcome, or just give in and let the pain swallow me for awhile.
Lorie, Today I had the same kind of day you had yesterday. Been on the verge of tears all day. I usually make it to my car after work. Been nearly 2 months. Seems like forever ago and yesterday all at the same time. Yesterday I was cleaning up in my sewing room and thought I'd go thru some of Derricks things. Somehow I never got to that. I'm finding that a hard part of this is that I always had some sort of a plan for the future. But now I don't know what the new plan is. I don't know what to do with his baby book. Of course I'll keep it forever but what then, when I'm gone.... I'm just frantic trying to figure out a plan with out my sweet boy.
Bobbi, Every day seems to bring a different emotion. It has been over a year and a half since Hunter's death and I still cannot bring myself to look at home videos or go through his things that I have here. (He lived with his dad, so I don't have alot of his personal things). I hope that your day goes better tomorrow. I also understand what you are saying about plans for the future. I have also noticed since Hunter's death, that I cannot remember things well at all.Do you have that problem? I haven't looked at Hunter's baby book. I'm just not ready for any of that yet.
Melissa Szuch
Hi Ladies,
Sandra I can relate to your statement that no one needs you like your baby did, that is how I feel about Sarah. I am fortunate that I do have a wonderful daughter , son, son-in-law and three beautiful grand children. As a matter of fact if it werent for my daughter Laura I dont know where I would be she hold me and crys with me. The only time that my mind is at rest is when I am at her house holding or playing with my grand children. When I am left alone my mind goes back to the sadness and loss that I feel. Last nights trigger was "Do you think she knew that I loved her?" I know that she did and have the cell phone messages and the texts on my phone to replay. So why do I doubt? Why do I play her death over and over in my mind? am I some sort of sadist that I want to feel the pain over an over? No It is just something that happens I wont even be thinking about my beautiful daughter and it slams me out fo no where... She is gone, how am I going to make it without you? I love you Sarah, I miss you so much it hurts
Jul 17, 2011
Lisa Adams
Oh, I am just beside myself! I went out last night and the "thoughts" were really getting hold of me, so I called a friend that had lost a child several years ago and told her that I was suicidal. She talked to me for hours until I was past the worst of it. She told me to go home and write on my board all the reasons we had talked about why I couldn't take my life.
As I was doing this, my boyfriend came home from spending yet another night out "with the guys" and asked me what I was doing. I finally broke down and told him that I wanted to kill myself. Did he take me in his arms and console me? No! Did he ask if I felt I needed to go to a hospital? No! He got angry at me! Then he looked at me with an evil, smug look and said "You won't kill yourself. You don't have it in you." What, you're going to DARE me to do it? UN - F'ING - BELIEVABLE!!
Jul 17, 2011
Bobbi Durbin
OMG!! Lisa you certainly dont need that!! WOW....I'd be showing him the door! I just don't understand why the men in our lives are acting like this. Why can't they understand that our world is shattered?? Every reason we lived for is gone. Our hears are broken into a million pieces never to be whole again. Why is that so hard to understand???
Jul 17, 2011
Karen R.
Oh sweet Sandra, I am so sorry. I really do know how you feel, all I can say is thank goodness for my little one. Some people think that sounds so cruel like the rest of my children don't matter but that is not the case. I guess it's just that incident I had with her when she voiced her concerns and fears. In some sort of irrational way, I feel like my other children are older and don't "need' me as much. The would argue that is so not true. We all have different circumstances and support systems in our lives. If you feel as though you don't have anyone, at least please try to use all of us, use this site or others. I have mentioned before how one of my older children tries to discourage me from being on this site. She made me so angry. There is no one else that I can talk to that truly gets it. The bottom line is I just want my son back too! I still need the universe to know that I will forever look for my son and I want the world to stop until I find him. I just can't accept any of this.
thanks again for at least listening.
Jul 17, 2011
Karen R.
Jul 17, 2011
Lisa Adams
Thanks Karen and Bobbi. I relate to your comment about your older children. My only other child is 23 now and lives miles away in another state. He has a great job and an exciting future ahead of him and I'm soooo happy for him. But at the same time, I feel like I've lost my identity. I feel like I don't have a purpose anymore.
My friend told me though that my purpose was to carry my daughter's legacy for her, so I'm trying to find my strength again so that I can do that. I just feel so alone. I just wish I had someone that would hold me and me let me hide for just a little while.
Jul 18, 2011
Sandra LaBonte
Jul 18, 2011
Karen R.
Jul 18, 2011
Lisa Adams
I really don't know where to turn, what to do. My mate doesn't give me the emotional support that I need and our relationship is crumbling fast. I really want to move out but if I do then I would have very little money to live on each month. Not that he makes much of a contribution anyway, because the home we live in now is basically free. he constantly picks fights with me over STUPID things. Then tells me that my grief his getting on his nerves to the point that he's just going to leave. Fine leave, quit threatening me like you think I'm scared for you to go. I DON'T NEED THIS RIGHT NOW!!! I'm trying not to kill myself and he's barking at me about how I get on his nerves! What should I do?
Jul 20, 2011
Karen R.
Hey Lisa, thank goodness my husband was not as harsh as your mate. Since you asked........kick him to the curb!!!! At this point, I am sure that you won't consider him a lost! You don't need that extra stress and pain. Most people in our shoes need that extra TLC. Sometimes we may only require a hug, or just a ear for listening or we may want to be left alone. Our emotions are all over the place and they shouldn't take our actions personal because it's not intended that way. They have to try to understand that are no rules or time limits on how we grieve and mourn. Somedays we made need to scream and/or cry all day, all night. We might feel like killing ourself but we don't expect others that claim to love us, tell us to go ahead because we are getting on their nerves! They don't understand that other people's complaints sound so petty to us and that if you catch us on a bad day, their "threats" of leaving us or cutting us off, really don't matter.
Maybe something will change for the better with him and he will finally "get it" before it's too late. Sorry that you are going through this.
Jul 20, 2011
Ann Edmondson
Jul 20, 2011
Karen R.
Hey Ann and everyone. This this a great forum to vent. I f it wasn't for forums like this, I don't know where I would be now. It is extremely difficult, if not impossible, at times to have people truly understand what we are feeling and why we are feeling this way, if they are not experiencing it.
Thanks
Jul 20, 2011
Lisa Adams
Jul 20, 2011
Karen R.
Jul 20, 2011
Lisa Adams
Ladies, you are not going to believe this one. I have gone round and round with the people at the cemetary over Roxanne's marker. The woman who helped us when we ordered it was rude and made very insensitive comments. Then they ordered the marker without me proofing it and it WAS WRONG. Then they told me it would be in place by July 3rd. After having to go up to the manager again this past Monday and complain, they finally got the marker down on Wednesday. Guess what? Again, not what I ordered! It didn't even have a flower vase on it! So, I go to the manager again to complain. He assures me they will get it fixed Thursday. So, late last night I go up to the cemetary and my precious girl's grave is torn all to Hell! The granite was knocked over to the side, the flowers that were on the grave were strewn everywhere and it looked like a dog or something had been digging up the dirt! I was so upset!
Jul 22, 2011
Karen R.
What?!!!!!! Oh no!, that's horrible! ! I can imagine how you felt, I had a similar incident but not as traumatic as yours, now that I've read what happened to you! Thank goodness that my son's granite monument was exactly what I ordered. The first incidence I had with the cementery was the very next day after my son's funeral/burial, I went to cementery because I was in such denial, to look for my son. I know it sounds crazy but I really believed he could be wondering around somewhere, confused and lost because he had a brain injury. I had my husband drive me around town first before he brought me to the cementery. My husband knew my mental state and he did not want to feel my wrath, so he did it. Anyway, when I get there, I rush over to where he was and I see that there is a huge hole or burial plot next to him that was just being dug for someone else's burial. My heart was pounding out of my chest because all of the dozens of flowers that were placed there, were just thrown all over the place. I started to panic that maybe my son "got out" or that they moved my son. When I fell to my knees, right at the edge, one of the grave diggers came over to me and asked what was wrong and I yelled' who moved my son's flowers?!" and my son could not possibly be down there, this idiot said "oh yeah, i dug your son's grave yesterday, look close, you can see a part of his white casket right there but it's a little hard because there is a cement slab over it". He's pointing, like it was nothing! I could not believe it! My husband had to literally drag me away and fight with me to get me in the car. I cursed every bad word there is. I couldn't believe how cold this bastard was. I was totally unaware that they a place a slab of cement over the casket, i did NOT need to see that, I started thinking that thing on top would really make it hard for him to get out, so I had to convince myself that maybe he got out before they put the slab on. My husband wanted me to go on some antipsychotic medications after that but I would never do that. I told my husband that I am on the worst emotional roller coaster of my life.
Alot of these people that work there. its just a "job" to them. They need to always remember that this is our loved one's final resting place. Some people, like me, have the need and desire to be there as much as possible and others may never want to return there or only visit for birthdays and special events/holidays but for whatever reasons you have, everyone should be treated with respect. I take special care of getting rid of weeds and watering flowers and bushes I have there, it's important to me and I don't want my son's 'place' disrespected, ever. There was another incident when i went to visit and some pictures and candles and some other things were gone. once again that burning rage came over me and I went straight to their office to make a complaint. I told the supervisor that I feel like my son's place was robbed, yes robbed! She tried to reassure me that none of their workers would ever move those things and that maybe another visitor did because the only thing they sometimes remove are dead bouquets of flowers but nothing else. Anyway, thank goodness, nothing has ever been removed again.
Sorry for what happened.
Jul 22, 2011
Melissa Szuch
Hi Ladies,
The day of Sarahs service I recieved a call from the funeral home and they said there had been a mistake and that Sarah had not been sent to the crematorium and that she was still at the funeral home. I did not have her embalmed because she was being cremated. The guy said that they were willing to put her in a casket but there would be a smell because of decomposition... THIS HORRIFIED ME I FOUND SARAH AFTER 2 DAYS, ALL I COULD PICTURE WAS WHAT SHE LOOKED LIKE AFTER 2 WEEKS! I was so upset, the service went on with an empty coffin, her father was expecting half of her ashes.. Talk about making a already bad day worse... IDK I think they should make them take some sort of empathy class or something. The guy we made Sarahs arrangements with was very nice when we were writing the check however after there mix up and me having to wait another week for her ashes was a lot to take. I didn't want to go back to the place that reminded me of her death.. It was awful...
Jul 22, 2011
Lisa Adams
Jul 22, 2011
Sandra LaBonte
Jul 22, 2011
Ann Edmondson
Jul 22, 2011
Melissa Szuch
thank u all! I love this group and am so grateful for all of your care, concern and support, It is such a relief to have someone to talk to.
I am at our beach house and told my neighbor that Sarah passed away, she grabbed me and hugged me tight and started to cry. She said "OMG Melissa I am so sorry I Lost my son too he was only 2 years old..I feel your pain. no one unless they have lost a child can know your pain they have no idea!" I was in shock she had never shared with me her loss. Two moms missing there babies just stood there holding each other crying. Best cry that I have had since Sarahs passing. I cannot explain the connection that we now share.
It is bitter sweet being here in Cayucous, everywhere I look I see reminders of her. Us walking down the street to the beach in her wedding gown, then today holding this small little hand of my grandson Aden making the same walk.
We came to spread her ashes, I am not ready for that at all its far to soon! I dont know when, just not now maybe never... who knowns
Jul 22, 2011
Karen R.
Jul 22, 2011
Karen R.
Jul 22, 2011
Karen R.
Jul 22, 2011
Karen R.
Jul 22, 2011
Ammy
Jul 23, 2011
Sandra LaBonte
Ann, I just watched your videos. You are right. You can actually feel the love he has for his beautiful daughter.I.m very sorry for your loss.
Sandy
Jul 23, 2011
Bobbi Durbin
Ann, this is the place to vent!! We've all lost part of our hearts. You can bet we will understand. We're here, always.
Hugs to you, Bobbi
Jul 23, 2011
Kenny's mom
Jul 23, 2011
Karen R.
Jul 24, 2011
Karen R.
Hello Kenny's mom. I am so sorry for the loss of your son. There are no laws or rules for how we should grieve and mourn. I have become estranged from my husband also, 6 months after my son passed away. He is not my son's biological father but they always had a good relationship. We have a child together. He could not handle my grief and mourning. His famous words were "just stop, you have to stop". He had no idea to handle me and he's not the type of person that would have gone to counseling to try to understand what I was going through. It was my decision to leave because I could not give him the attention and affection he had been use to. It's been about 16 months since we have been separated and I must say that in the last 3 months, our relationship is better. I think it's better because we don't live together, so I don't have to hear him telling me to stop all the time. he was being supportive the best way he knew how but it wasn't the right way for me. He would only make me angry and have resentment for him, I don't believe that his intentions were to hurt me, but nevertheless, that's how I took it. I looked at him as being selfish for wanting me to be the way I was before I lost my son. Some people have a better relationship living apart, he does not want us to be apart and has not stopped trying to convince me to move back.
I hope everything works out for whatever's best for you.
Jul 24, 2011
Ammy
Hello Friends, I pray today will give you a measure of comfort.
Sandra, thank you for the comment on the videos. I can't always look at them, but some days they give me a measure of peace to at least know he had some happiness in his troubled life.
Thanks also to Bobbi & Karen R.. I appreciate your words of kindness.
Jul 24, 2011
Ammy
I'm just thinking of you all and sending love and hugs. Hope you are all okay.
Ann
Jul 27, 2011
Rosie Fletcher
Each day we feel this ache in our hearts. Each day brings a reminder of who we've lost. Each day is a battle to survive... my son gives me signs in his own way to let me know he's around. For that I feel some comfort. But it's just not the same as hearing his voice, seeing his smile, hearing his music. The 3rd of the month is around the corner.... it will be 5 months since he passed. Each month doesn't get easier. Just reminds me more what I have lost in my life. God help us all who grieve. The ache doesn't go away but the sun goes down every night and comes up the next day. Sigh...
Jul 27, 2011
Lisa Adams
Jul 28, 2011
Laura Villarreal
Jul 28, 2011
Lisa Adams
Jul 28, 2011
Bobbi Durbin
Jul 30, 2011
Karen R.
Jul 31, 2011
Karen R.
Aug 1, 2011
Ammy
Glad to see you back Karen. Hope you were able to enjoy a few days away.
As always...you all are in my thoughts and prayers.
Aug 1, 2011
Karen R.
Aug 1, 2011
Lorie Dunn
Aug 1, 2011
debbie larson
Hi,
I guess I don't know where to go to start talking with different people, someone help.. so I can start my search for groups and people. thanks
Aug 2, 2011
Ann Edmondson
Debbie -- tell us about your loss. That will help us help you. We are here for you. Many of us just barely cope on a minute by minute basis. Some of us make it a few days before a melt down occurs and we have to cry for a while. So how can we help?
Aug 2, 2011
Karen R.
Aug 2, 2011
Karen R.
Aug 2, 2011
Lisa Adams
Aug 3, 2011
Bobbi Durbin
Lorie, Today I had the same kind of day you had yesterday. Been on the verge of tears all day. I usually make it to my car after work. Been nearly 2 months. Seems like forever ago and yesterday all at the same time. Yesterday I was cleaning up in my sewing room and thought I'd go thru some of Derricks things. Somehow I never got to that. I'm finding that a hard part of this is that I always had some sort of a plan for the future. But now I don't know what the new plan is. I don't know what to do with his baby book. Of course I'll keep it forever but what then, when I'm gone.... I'm just frantic trying to figure out a plan with out my sweet boy.
Aug 3, 2011
Lorie Dunn
Aug 3, 2011