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Man this is why I stopped going to Christian church even though I was raised that way. Stop threatening eternal damnation already! You act as if ou are God yourself. You are not anyone's judge. Good beautiful wonderfully giving and loving people who do not have the same faith and religious ideas are not going to "hell" just because you say so based on the writings of MAN. Please God did not create ALL of this and then make it a contest as to who picks the right book!! God is love.
Zell,
It is your opinion that the bible is god's word.
Which is fine, that's your faith and belief and there's nothing wrong with that, but it's still no more or less valid than anyone else's opinion.
Zell - I never said it was more valid. I am asking the same from you - we are all in enough pain as it is without being told that our "fate is sealed" because OUR faith is not what you believe. I'm sorry if I'm wrong but that sounds very judgmental to me and it offended me. I find my strength in my belief in God also and am sorry for everyone's loss here. Sending you prayers and love to help get through the holidays.
Connie,
While I agree with you completely, I do just want to say that I believe that Zell --insofar as it is possible to "know" someone online -- is a good person. She has a fundamentalist Christian viewpoint with which I do not agree at all, but I believe she also has a good heart. I really don't believe she is setting herself up to be anyone's judge; unfortunately (in my opinion) she does believe god operates that way.
Ok, I'm just rambling now. I guess I just wanted to say this because while I don't agree with Zell on any spiritual/religious matters, I do like her and think she is a good person. I have a difficult time sometimes "speaking" with her, because of that dichotomy.
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I respect and care about you too. :)
I'm sure she is a good person. Sorry if I offend anyone but feel I have a right to express my opinion as well. I feel a person's relationship with Spirit is a personal journey. Hugs to everyone enduring this horrible reality we must all deal with. I hope you all find strength for the holidays
I agree that we all have the right to express our opinions. As I said, I find that I don't agree with any of Zell's spiritual/religious views, either. I am agnostic verging on atheist, but if there is a god of any kind then I agree that each person's relationship with that god is a personal journey.
I just wanted to say what I did about Zell because I have found her to be a genuine and good person during the time I've been on this forum, though I only "know" her here (online). I think you are new here, correct? Or at least I don't recall seeing you before. Anyway, I know Zell can come across as judgmental, but I really don't think she is -- I think she's misguided in her attempts to "witness", but I think that she really does believe she's being helpful with it, and that's not necessarily evident when one first reads her posts.
Anyway, I hope we all can find peace, in whatever way(s) work best for us.
God made us and knows what we think and still loves us
I disagree. If s/he were a "just" God, my husband would not be dead, and neither would yours.
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